The Culture Bunker Archives #15
(27 September - 28 October 1994)

Note: These archives were originally housed at The Culture Bunker FTP site (which no longer exists), and then later at Patrick Gaumond's Soul Desert pages. You can download the complete set of archives or check out Rail On!, the latest incarnation of The Culture Bunker. Enjoy!


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Today's Date  
Tue Sep 27 10:37:23 EDT 1994


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From: bdaniel@origin.ea.com (Britt Daniel)
Subject: In search of Copey
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:11:54
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Hi everybody


Now that I've become acquainted with the Cope discography that Travis has put 
together, I'm interested in seeing if I can get ahold of some of the stuff on 
it that I don't already have. Here's the four things I really would like to 
have dubs of:


Colours Fly Away 12" (I'm mostly interested in the three B-sides)
Sunshine Playroom 12" (same)
Competition / Belief in Him 7" (listed as Rabbi Joseph Gordan)
Sunspots 7" (with other accompanying 7")


If anybody on this list has any one of these, I'd really like to trade a dub 
of your stuff for a dub of some Cope recording of mine that you may not have. 
Or I could send you a tape and postage. Thanks, Britt



bdaniel@origin.ea.com======================================================
Austin, Texas==============================================================



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Hi Trav. Wanted to make sure you check out the Cope feature in the new
issue of Raygun magazine; it's actually good sized. Is the list still
active? Haven't received any culturebunker email for awhile!


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Raygun?  Is that a music mag we can find in the local music stores?


Britt - I have most of the stuff you are lacking.  THe only thing I don't
have is the Rabbi Joseph Gordon stuff.  Does ANYONE have that?


The culture bunker has been kind of quiet - I think people keep forgetting
the email address, or would rather just reply to the postings.  No problem,
really, unless you like it real busy like the Fall newsgroup.  :)  (At least
it was busy last time I subscribed to it!)


We got a couple of subscribers due to my post on the Chameleons mailing list.
There was some mention of Cope interest over there, so I tossed out the
line.


Also, on the Chameleons list there has been mention of the band For Against.
Someone cited a very positive review of them in Trouser Press Record Guide, and
last night I took a peek at it - they sound interesting.  Has anyone heard
their music?


Does anyone know anyting about upcoming Cope releases?  Island's CD of B-sides,
Cope's "experimental" album, the Teardrop Live album that never came out...


Take care everybody!  


Travis



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Today's Date  
Wed Oct 12 11:12:23 EDT 1994


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>I think anyone who doesn't yet have SKELLINGTON and DROOLIAN is really
>missing out on an important aspect of Cope - his unrestrained youthfulness.


   Okay, I'm not shy...generally. Searched as I have, I still
can't come across these two in shops and generally no one is
willing to order them for me. I have some interviews that
I did with Julian that I'd be willing to swap for these
or Teardrop/Cope boots. The quality is okay, but the
commentary is stellar. Some of the best interviews I
have ever done. Drop me a line....pax
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JoE Silva
Carbohydrate Center, Univ of GA
220 Riverbend Rd
Athens, GA
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Hello, Copers.  As you may have noticed, thunder was down since the 5th,
and I only received 1 mail message in that time (the one from joe silva),
so if you sent something and it bounced back to you, sorry!  But you might
want to mail me again.


Sorry about this!


Travis



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Fri Oct 14 11:22:23 EDT 1994


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Hello, Copers!  I have an idea that's been running around my head for
the last couple of weeks.


Is anybody interested in having me put together a tape of Julian Cope/
Teardrop Explodes covers?  I'm not talking about songs Julian Cope 
performed that were covers (like 5 o'clock world and I have always been
here before) but instead, songs by Julian Cope that *we* cover!


Anyway, I think it would be interesting to try to cover a Julian Cope
song. Maybe some of you feel the same way?


Let me know if any of you are interested in either performing a song,
or a bunch of songs, or if you are just interested in hearing the
compilation tape when it's done.


Trav



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Today's Date  
Mon Oct 17 11:41:14 EDT 1994


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> From:           Travis Emmitt <txe@thunder.swa.com>


> Is anybody interested in having me put together a tape of Julian Cope/
> Teardrop Explodes covers?  I'm not talking about songs Julian Cope 
> performed that were covers (like 5 o'clock world and I have always been
> here before) but instead, songs by Julian Cope that *we* cover!


 What a great idea!  I will have a go at something this weekend, I 
can't guarantee I'll come up with anything though.  I'd love a copy 
of the tape in any case. :-) 


-- 
David Churcher <davec@wsti.demon.co.uk>



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On Fri, 14 Oct 1994, Travis Emmitt wrote:


> Hello, Copers!  I have an idea that's been running around my head for
> the last couple of weeks.
> Is anybody interested in having me put together a tape of Julian Cope/
> Teardrop Explodes covers?  I'm not talking about songs Julian Cope 
> performed that were covers (like 5 o'clock world and I have always been
> here before) but instead, songs by Julian Cope that *we* cover!
> Anyway, I think it would be interesting to try to cover a Julian Cope
> song. Maybe some of you feel the same way?
> Let me know if any of you are interested in either performing a song,
> or a bunch of songs, or if you are just interested in hearing the
> compilation tape when it's done.
> Trav


          I believe ILK may give it a shot, perhaps little donkey
     or Robert Mitchum. I think it's a great idea, I'd love to
     hear it for sure. Perhaps advert for bands to do it in some
     newsgroups also to flesh it out a bit.


                                       aaron..



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I would love to contribute a track... I play bass, and a guitarist friend of
mine is just getting into his "Cope is God" phase now (in fact, I just bought
him a copy of Jehovakill five minutes ago). I'm not sure what exactly would
lend itself to re-interpretation, though. I have a feeling that anything my
circle of friends would cover would end up pretty radically changed in the
end. Be fun to do one of the long jams tho'.
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I will also try to contribute a song or two.  It's hard to decide where
to start.  Maybe we should list possible songs we'll so, to avoid over
lap.   Of course, we could all do a version of "Reward" also!



Tell you what - anyone who's interested in putting together some songs,
let's say you have until the end of the month (Oct 31) and then you can
mail them to me, where I will put together the compilation tape.  This
"deadline" is kinda arbitrary - just something to spur us on. Without a
deadline, I doubt I'd ever get started.


Anyway, I'm exicted about this project!  If you have any questions or
comments, please post 'em to the list!  I had a dream that I met Julian
Cope last night.  He shook my hand, and I told him about the mailing 
list, and he said he doesn't get on the Internet that often, but that
he'd try to check it out.  Neat, huh?


Trav



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Today's Date  
Wed Oct 26 11:43:12 EDT 1994


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I haven't noticed a lot of action on the list lately, so I thought I'd throw 
out some Cope questions that I've had and never heard answered. Yes I am a 
geek.


1) Who is Leila Kahled? 


2) Does anyone know if Donald Ross Skinner has ever released anything outside 
of his work with Cope? I guess I'm sort of interested in just about anything 
you guys might've heard about him becuase he's rarely mentioned in articles 
but he seems like such a big part of J C's music.


3) Has anyone ever heard the Scott Walker compilation album that Cope put 
together back around '85? I've never heard or seen anything by him at all and 
I'd like to know what his stuff is like.


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Ahhh, nice questions.  


They have a few Cope CDs in the used bin at the local shop:


Fried, Peggy Suicide and My Nation Underground, I think.  Fried
might be hard to come by, so if anyone wants me to pick it up, let
me know!


Trav



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Today's Date  
Wed Oct 26 13:55:51 EDT 1994


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>>> Who is Leila Kahled? 


Sue me if I'm wrong but I think a Palastinian terrorist. (Leila Khaled)
Unless the song is about another Leila Khaled?


No idea about the other two questions.


/Ed



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WHile we're on the topic of questions...


Does anyone know the story  behind the two radically different mixes of
Kilimanjaro(sp?)? I always assumed that the bad (IMHO) mix was intended for the
US market, but I don't know.


Any thoughts, guesses?


Larry


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Does anyone know whether this has been released yet? It's
supposedly Julian's attempt at what he calls
"kraut rock."


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JoE Silva
Carbohydrate Center, Univ of GA
220 Riverbend Rd
Athens, GA
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   Speaking of dual Kilamanjaro's, I swear I remember there
being different album covers for the import and the US release.
Is this true? I have my doubts about this recollection because
I recently purchased a UK copy of it used and it was the same
jacket I was used to seeing of the guys standing next to one
another (insert big yawn here...). Until then I had thought that
the UK album had a picture of an animal standing in front of a
mountain that I assumed was Mt. Kil.
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JoE Silva
Carbohydrate Center, Univ of GA
220 Riverbend Rd
Athens, GA
(706) 542 - 4452
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A little voice in the back of my head is trying to tell me that Leila Khaled
has something to do with recent feminist thought... This is not mutually
exlusive with being a Palestinian freedom fighter / terrorist.  I know I've
read the name in a non-Cope context before, at any rate... I'm not really
sure, though.
Bernie



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Hi - is this list still going?   Julian mentioned that he was recording
an album with a quartet, called Queen Elizabeth.  Well, in yesterdays NME,
hidden inthe record store ads, one store is advertising this Cd, which must
mean it is due for release inthe next month or so?  I've not had any
postcards from KAK about it tho...


Mike



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Hello there, fellow Bunkerites!


Glad to be on the list, having followed JHC ever since my high school 
daze in the early 80s.


However, it's a good thing I just started subbing to this list now, since it
allowed me to buy and listen to AUTOGEDDON ignorant of the overwhelmingly
negative reviews that have appeared herein!


I, for one (only one?), _love_ AUTOGEDDON. In fact, it's been about the 
_only_ thing I've been listening to for the past month (yes, over and 
over...). For me, it's the (il)logical next step from Jehovakill, eschewing
the slick epic production of that album for a much sparser and aggressive 
sound. Although it seems to be all over the place, AUTOGEDDON has an overall
cohesiveness keeps the whole thing from exploding in about a thousand 
directions.


There's a much more prominent streak of violence in this album, 
especially in the light of his message on Jehovakill and Peggy Suicide. 
Perhaps this has turned some people off, but I don't find it out of place 
here: violence is, unfortunately, a part of life, and regardless of how 
good or 'pure' you want to be, your animal self will occasionally rear 
its ugly primal head. Yeah, that's it: this album is a gritty and primal 
flip-side to the neolithic utopias on Jehovakill and Peggy Suicide. 
And for that, I admire JHC's honesty.


Take 'Don't Call Me Mark Chapman', which is my favourite song on the 
album. It reminds me a lot of 'Land' on Patti Smith's 'Horses'. Not just 
for the mixture of spoken word poetry and music, but how it portrays a 
violent act in a very surreal disjointed manner. The fact that JHC can 
even inject some humour into the situation he's portraying ('Don't call 
me Sirhan Sirhan, Cause they ain't Duran Duran') _and_ make it work, is a 
testament to his brilliance.


I dunno, maybe it's just because I'm an old punk at heart, but I really 
dig where he's going with his elaboration of 'kraut rock'. I love JHC for 
the same reason I love Iggy. Both are honest (painfully so at times), 
both aren't afraid to take chances in their work (sometimes it works, 
sometimes it doesn't...diamonds in the rough!! I'd rather listen to JHC's 
first take of a song than U2's 150th), and both will be pumping out 
albums for a looong time to come!  :D


I'll leave you with the following quotes:


"Buttf**ers, buttf**ers trying to rule my world!"  Iggy Stooge, _Metallic KO_


"Too many buttf**ers controlling me..."  JHC, _AUTOGEDDON_



Cheers!


Peter (pawelek@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca)



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I haven't had a postcard from JC and I usually get one before any new
release. On a similar note, I haven't seen "Creaming Off" in any store either
and that was mentioned in the last postcard.


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   I must agree w/ Peter on Auto being the logical progression
from Jehovahkill, and while I think it meanders a bit towards 
the end, I still think it's a very positive release. And speaking
of which does this "Creaming Off" thing have anything to do
with Superstar at all (the techno/kraut rock project)?


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JoE Silva
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So far as I know there are indeed two Kilimanjaro covers, one a photo of
the group (US release) and one a photo of the mountain (UK release) but
a voice in the back of my head tells me there was a third one for a UK
reissue.  I've got the first two but not that last, so...anyone else out
there have the straight poop?


I'll my $.02 on _Autogeddon_.  I was in the UK a couple of weeks ago and
found it then, and though I'm not a big fan of _Jehovahkill_ or, for that
matter, much post-_St. Julian_ stuff, I quite like _Autogeddon_.  Go
figure.


Thanks, one and all (Travis esp.) for your participation on this list!


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JoE Silva:


>   Speaking of dual Kilamanjaro's, I swear I remember there
>being different album covers for the import and the US release.


There were two. I have the Skyclad (?) CD with the Zebras in front of
Kilamanjaro as well as the Polydor with the picture of the guys. My vinyl copy
has the zebra cover, but the mix matches the mix on my polydor CD. In other
owrds I was very disapointed when I bought Kilamanjaro on CD the first time,
until I found the import version a while later.


This was all about 5 years ago so I have no idea what is currently being sold.


Larry



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Well, I don't know who Scott Walker is either, but I've got an album by
him! It's on vinyl, released in 1983, and it's called Climate of Hunter.
I haven't listened to it for ages but I seem to remember he has a bizarre
sounding voice and equally bizarre lyrics which seem to mean nothing at all.
I think I will go off and listen to it now! I remember when I bought the
album, my brother (who is a lot older than me and knows all kind of pointless
stuff about music) reckoned that Scott Walker was originally from a group
called The Walker Brothers who had some famous hit - I think it was You'll
Never Walk Alone. Maybe someone older than me on this list (is there anyone?)
can confirm or deny this... If anyone's really interested in this guy I can
type in some of the lyrics from the inner sleeve...


While I'm posting to the list I'd like to add my support for Autogeddon,
which I feel has been unfairly slammed here. It's great, especially
Autogeddon Blues, ... Mark Chapman (just trying to drive the fuckers out)
and s.t.a.r.c.a.r. Fantastic stuff. How can you call yourself a Julian Cope
fan if you don't like it? Sure there's no brassy or poppy shit like his more
produced albums, but there is Julian's mind laid open for us to peer into.
Cool! I want to meet him - isn't it about time he visited Aus?


james



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       I've been away for the summer so this may be behind time


   Has anyone read JHC's book Copeulation about the Liverpool scene,
        the Wah, Bunnymen,Drummond, theTears and their sad demise!


      Gripping stuff!


     Brian.



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I've seen the two different versions of Kilimanjaro (the domestic
with the band on the cover and the import with the zebras), but I've
never heard anything before about them actually being different mixes...
Is this true?  I noticed the tracks were in a somewhat different
order, but they were the same titles.  What else is different about the
two versions?


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Yep, uh-huh, chalk up another person as liking AUTOGEDDON. (Though FRIED 
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About Kili:
   I have the Zebra version on Vinyl and the faces version on CD.  CD adds
"Second Head" and mixes the order around a bit.  Also, I think there were some
minor differences in song mixes, like "Reward" had louder piano on the vinyl.
Of course, those differences might just be in the "warmer" sound of vinyl
versus the "antiseptic" sound of a CD.


   Also, the vinyl (zebra) version I have has "suffocate," an excellent song
that also appears on YOU DISSAPPEAR FROM VIEW EP in a string-quartet version.


   It's neat how our perception of Cope's albums shifts around every once
and a while.  Now, I like Autogeddon, and not because of all the positive
reviews.  THe other day, before this discussion came up, I was thinking that
I hardly ever play PEGGY SUICIDE anymore.  THen I tried to come up with great
songs that I've been missing by not playing PEGGY.  Um, Head, Safesurfer, um


   Well, I realized that PEGGY might have a real nice sound, and some excellent
driving songs, but there's nothing really to hook me in, nothing dragging me
back.  KILI keeps dragging me back.  (By the way, I've started a cover of
Sleeping Gas).  


   When I turned my attention to AUTOGEDDON, I got more excited.  "Ain't No
Getting Round Getting Round," "I Gotta Walk," "Autogeddon Blues."  THey keep
popping up in my brain, keep calling me.


   Speaking of covers, how are y'all doing?  I finally got the bass line,
drums, and trumpets for Sleeping Gas (Good that I have the Piano Version, which
is simpler) but the guitar part is eluding me.  I made a stab, though:


In key of D:


    Chord 1:   A D F#
    Chord 2:  Bb D F


Do these sound right to you?


Trav



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From: "John A. Loughney" <74344.1744@compuserve.com>
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Subject: New member
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Hi all,


As you may be able to tell, I'm a new member.  Couple of questions:  How to
influence Julian to come to the US to do a US tour.  He's a bit in New York,
since that's where his in-laws reside, why not do a couple of shows as well?


I'm looking to fill out my collection.  If anyone knows some shops selling the
following, I'd like to know:
>> Sunshine Playroom / Hey High Class Butcher / Wreck My Car / Eat The Poor
>> Charlotte Anne / A Question of Temperature / Christmas Mourning / Books
>> DROOLIAN 
>> Easty Risin' (East Easy Rider remix) / Ravebury Stones
>> Heed : Of Penetration and the City-Dweller (Head remix) / Bring Cherhill Down
(vocal) / Bring Cherhill Down (instrumental)
>> Fear Loves This Place / I Have Always Been Here Before /Sizewell B / Gogmagog
>> Paleface / Nothing / Starry Eyes / Fear Loves This Place


I have just about everything else. I do know of a shop selling the following 12"
cheap:
        Beautiful Love ep
        East Easy Rider ep
        Head ep


Also, I have the following live tapes available for trade:
Teardrops -     San Francisco, Old Waldorf      5/10/81 45      EX      FM
Copey - Boston  Boston, Paradise Club   6/29/91         90      VG+     AUD


Any info on the Island singles comp?  Whats on it and when is the release date?
I would like not to buy it, but if there are enough rarities that I can't get
anywhere else, I may have to.


Also, I saw in the archive a mention of a Chameleons list.  Where is that, and
is there an archive?


TRAVIS: as far as trading, I'll let you select 2 things to match the above.
Just email me about them.  Thanks.


John Loughney
74344.1744@compuserve.com 
[its not a real e-mail account, I get charged $0.15 per piece of EMail (that's
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Howdy all,


I've seen a couple of mentions of Scott Walker, and I guess I qualify 
as "older," so here's some vague info for ya:


The Walker Brothers were a British trio (none of whom were named
Walker) who had a string of big hits in the UK in the mid sixties.
Front man Scott Engel had a big booming voice which often led to 
comparisons with the Righteous Brothers.  They were all from 
the U.S., but lived and recorded in England.  Their best known 
song in the U.S. is "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore."


Around '66 or '67, Scott Walker recorded a string of four increasingly
less commercial solo albums ("Scott Walker 1" "Scott Walker 2" etc.) 
that are the real basis for his reputation.  A mixture of original songs 
and Jacques Brel covers, they featured brilliant big orchestral 
arrangements.  The 4th album, released under Scott's real name 
(Engel) was a commercial bomb and he went into seclusion. 
There's a biography out there which details some sordid events, 
such as suicide attempts.  He has only recorded sporadically since 
then, including an unreleased album produced by Brian Eno in the
mid-to-late 80s.


Walker fans started coming out of the woodwork about 3 years ago 
when the albums saw reissue on CD.  Another big Walker fan, btw, 
is Lloyd Cole.  If you're curious to check him out, all four of these 
albums are on CD in Europe.  Additionally, there is a single disc 
compilation of the four, as well as a second compilation that contains 
all of the Jacques Brel covers. 


Spike


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I recently obtained some Cope interviews (Thanks Joe!) and they are
very interesting!  Makes Cope seem a lot more human, and makes me
respect him a lot more.  He sounds like a very bright, self-aware
guy.  In parts, he sounded a bit preachy, but for the msot part Joe
did a very good job of steering him back on course.


So, how are the covers going?  Mine's almost done (chuckle).  Maybe
I'll get my girlfriend to sing it, or something!  (I can't sing
worth caca.)


Also, does anyone knoe mikef?  His email address used to be
fiddler@warnut.enet.de.com  but now that doesn't seem to be working.
He sent me a message asking if I had dropped him from the list, and
that no mail has gotten to him for the last month.  I sent him a
reply, but my reply bounced back.


Lastly, I got a complaint about the size of the headers for this list.
I'm not quite sure if the person was talking about the CULTURE BUNKER
title or the To:/From:/Date:/Message-Id:/Subject: lines, which I 
agree do take up a lot of space.

When I have time, I will write a program to split the header of of
mailed files, except for the From: and Subject lines.  I think I
already wrote it once, but not on this computer.  It's just a 
dinky little script file.  But anyway, I'll try to get that taken 
care of, but it might not be very soon (busy part of the semester)

Trav


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