From: dwatson@hpb.hwc.ca (Doug Watson)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:48:28 EST
Subject: Krautrock Sampler
Just finished reading an excerpt from Julian's forthcoming book, _Krautrock
Sampler: One Head's Guide To the Great Kosmische Musik, 1968 Onwards._  This
was part two of a two-part series that The Wire, a UK music magazine,
featured in their December and January issues.  (Sorry for the perceived
tardiness of this review-- us N. American readers tend to get our copies of
The Wire one month later.)  Part One was an overview of the Krautrock scene
that exploded in the late 60's, while Part Two was a brief history of Can.
Julian's writing in these articles is terrific.  Much tighter than his
lyrics, yet still retaining a sense of passion (unfortunately, an uncommon
feature in much of The Wire's expository writing.)  It struck me as a oneway
conversation with a friend raving about artists who deserve to be heard.
The only thing missing was a soundtrack-- I was drooling over the picture of
his collection of rare German vinyl-- and, of course, the much necessary
accessories for the waterbong which Julian is proudly displaying in the same
picture. ;)
Anyway, I'm asking fellow listers to keep their eyes open for any signs of
this book.  There was no mention of publishing house or release date.  Also,
I'd be very, very grateful if anyone could possibly set me up with a vinyl
copy of _Autogeddon_.
Thanks,
Doug
        

From: Howard Greenberg <howardg@pipeline.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 13:46:03 -0500
Hi
I've beeen a big Cope/Teardrops fan for a long time (saw them in NYC in '81
the first time)
But, I have to say that Autogedden really let me down, and from what I've
read about QE. I hope Julian isn't starting to beleive his legend a bit too
much.
Howard
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Hello Cope listers!
   I just got Britt's version of "Cut My Friend Down" and it's great!
So far we have 3 Cope covers ready for the compilation tape, and a couple
more on the way.  If anyone else wants to record a cover, it's never too
late...  As I said before, you don't even have to play an instrument.
Singing, reading, or even humming is game!  :)  So far the 2 tapes I have
received are VERY well done, singing-wise, music-wise and recording-wise!
   Anyway, keep sending in your covers!  I guess I'll extend the deadline
some more... :)
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Oh yes, release date for new For Against album: 23 January, 1995.  Let me
know if you want me to send you ordering info.
And I must say: the new BMG's alternative catalog is mudch improved!  They
even have Floored Genius in there!  Plus lots of cool british stuff.  Just
sift through the nasty American grunge clones and there are some really
nice bands in there for once!
gotta run!
Trav
        

From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 21:20:02 -0400
Subject: Recommendation for Cope fans
Travis (and Culture Bunker type peoples):
A recommendation - anyone interested in our Julian would probably get a
fair kick out of New Zealanders the Greg Johnson Set. Don't know how
available their music is overseas, but if you do happen across any
(expecially their album Everyday Distortions) try it. You should like it.
BTW - the initial recording of Head Hang Low is done (mix not yet done),
and I'm going to start work on Great Dominions ASAP...
James
James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago.
Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand
pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807
   * You talk to me as if from a distance
   * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time,
   * from another time                     (Brian Eno)
        

Hello, I know it's been a bit quiet on here recently...
Guess what?  I was reading WIRED magazine today, the December 1994 issue,
and they had a section where people can call up a number and hear parts
of various music CDs.  THey had 9 albums being advertised, and you know
what --- one of them was AUTOGEDDON!  I'm serious!  First Columbia House
and now WIRED.  Publicity!
Trav
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Hello, I know it's been a bit quiet on here recently...
Guess what?  I was reading WIRED magazine today, the December 1994 issue,
and they had a section where people can call up a number and hear parts
of various music CDs.  THey had 9 albums being advertised, and you know
what --- one of them was AUTOGEDDON!  I'm serious!  First Columbia House
and now WIRED.  Publicity!
Trav
        

From: 'im just a bill' <shelley@physics.utoronto.ca>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:19:07 -0500
hey, thanks for subscribing me.....ive got a question for ya!
how much do cd copies of skellington and droolian sell for these
days...not the reissues from k.a.k. but the originals....i have an extra
skellington and have access to an extra droolian :)
bluebird
        

From: Howard Greenberg <howardg@pipeline.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:12:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Re: your mail
has anyone's cd copy of skellington stopped working? mine's a staticky
mess! good thing I also own the vinyl!
howard
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From: Tokio Rose <yokoyama@husc.harvard.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 10:51:10 -0500 (EST)
hello, drudes.
I haven't said a lot lately, but since i have a few minutes on my hands
i'd like to say a few things.  most importantly, i'd like to express my
disagreement with those who think Queen Elizabeth sucks.  It doesn't.
julian has finally brought to fruition a concept that has been present in
the corners of his songs ever since "flipped out on LSD" (or whatever
that mostly instrumental teardrops demo is really called).  he has taken
'rite' from its earthly chains and unleashed it into space where it
belongs.  have you listened to the SOUNDS?  i'm not angry at how people
judge the album, but i do want to suggest that it be listened to.  take a
box of cough pills and lie down and get into it.  and if you fall asleep,
pay attention to your dreams.
LUV,
mark
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From: jloughney@riasmtp.riatax.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 16:24:54 EST
Subject: Whats next for Julian
So, anyone know what Julian is up to?  A new record? Tours?  Also,
what has happened to that proposed singles compilation that Island was
going to do?
John
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A singles compilation?  Two (official) albums after FLOORED GENIUS?
Well, if New Order can do it...  :)
Trav
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I have the feeling not too many of you are holding your breaths about the
new For Against CD, but in case you are, Branden Capp at IPR has told me that
Stinkweeds (via Milkbone) should have the CDs in their hands by Monday!
The new Milkbone is due out next week.  Additionally, CDNow.com has M.C.L.
for sale for $12 or so, but they tag it as BACKORDERED.  So, still nothing
positive about it, except Jack Rabid told me it was his personal favorite
For Against album, and Branden in last month's Milkbone heartily concurred.
Trav
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On a Cope note, the local CD store has FRIED, PEGGY SUICIDE and one other
CD on the used rack, if anyone wants one...  My Nation Underground is now
50 cents in the tape cut outs up near D.C.
Trav
        

From: jmcconn@warren.med.harvard.edu
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 14:14:00 EST
Subject: cds
Dear Travis,
            Can you give any info on the availibility of Droolian and
Skellington and prices. What sort of prices are old cope cds going for these
days, being only a recent convert to CDS I have the two floored genius cds and
almost all the old lps on tape so want to know how feasible it is to rebuy the
back catalog. I am still waiting for BMG to stock autogeddon as this should be
the most cost effective way of getting it.
All info appreciated.
Thanks
Jane
ps this is the first time I have actually emerged from being a lurker on this
list!!
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Nice to hear from you, Jane!
You should be able to get Skellington (and Skellington II) from:
Kak Ltd
PO Box 3823
London N8 8TQ  (or is it BTQ?  I forget)
I forget the price.  As for Droolian, I have no clue.
Trav
        

From: bernie@spine.med.utoronto.ca (Bernie Charlton)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 22:24:36 EST
Subject: used Julian
Up here in the barren North, Jehovakill, WSYM, Peggy Suicide, and
My Nation regularly show up used for $9-12CAN. Fried is a tad harder
to find, but I've seen it used a few times. Only the most recent
TDE stuff ever seems to show up used on CD . Autogeddon is selling
new for $14.99; I expect it will be showing up in the used stores
pretty soon.
Anyone want to sell me a used Floored Genius II CD? There's
only one copy in Toronto that I've found (was it instantly deleted?),
and it's quite overpriced.
Bernie
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From: Eve <eemsho77@ursa.Calvin.EDU>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 22:32:35 -0500 (EST)
To Copers. . .(and hello, Travis!)
When I was in Arizona this January, I located a couple of Teardrop
Explodes 12"s.
I'm wondering about rarity of these, interest in copies for anyone:
_Teardrop Explodes_ 12" (Tear 912) 1981
        A.  1.Reward
            2.Strange House In the Snow
        B.  1.Treason (It's Just A Story)
            2.Use Me
_Teardrop Explodes_ 12" TX-82G (Tear 712)
        A.  1.Tiny Children
            2.Rachael Built A Steamboat
        B.  3.Sleeping Gas (Live, Club Zoo, Temple Street, Liverpool 1)
Any help is appreciated greatly!!
Eve
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"When love breaks down, the things you do to stop the truth from hurting you;
When love breaks down, the lies we tell, they only serve to fool ourselves."
                                                -Prefab Sprout
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eemsho77@ursa.Calvin.EDU
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From: ILK  <aaronilk@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 23:33:04 -0800 (PST)
    Nice to see you unlurk, Jane! I've not posted in a while.
My plan to post all the interviews I have collected has been
put aside due to my recent flurry of postings to alt.sex.sounds.
But that is another story entirely. Well, just wanted to say hi
to all, and exclaim again that although Q.E. is not JEHOVAHKILL,
it still IS a damn good fry-piece if you ask me. Nuff said for now..
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From: Howard Greenberg <howardg@pipeline.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 18:10:02 -0500 (EST)
FYI--
my copy of Droolian on cd stopped working--its now just a staticky
mess--so beware!! Thank god for vinyl!  Anone interested in buying a
Rabbi Joseph Gordon single?
Howard
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How much are you selling the Rabbi Joseph Gordon single for, and what
format is it (vinyl/tape/cd)?
As for Floored Genius II - you might want to try CDNow.com.  Actually, I
can go ahead and check their price right now...
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Okay, the price of Floored Genius II via CDNow.com is $12.37, plus s&h
of course.  Not bad!
Fried and WSYM are only $9.77
Trav
        

From: Alastair Reynolds <A.Reynolds@fys.ruu.nl>
Subject: Re: comsats
First, thanks for subscribing me to the Cope list. Had a listen to Wilder
over the weekend, first time in a long while. Don't like it as much as
Kilimanjaro (tho I suppose it's a bit obvious to say that), but for my money
the last couple of tracks are superb, well worth the price of the album
alone. I remember listening to "and the fighting takes over/great
dominions" back in the summer of '89, when the Tianenmen square massacre
was happening, and they always struck me as somehow apt. Strange.
Cheers, Al
        

From: Edward S. Arthur  <arthur@wrksys.enet.dec.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 10:16:53 EDT
Subject: RE: I'll wait around...
>Arthur-Of-The-Other-List: 'Pologies for seeming so impertinent
>whne I've only been here for a week or so, but is there any point
>in having two Cope mailing lists, especially when the volume on
>this one is so low?
The other list is a moderated list run by Travis Emitt. I've
been a member of that one for years. This one has been around
only a year or less (?). Only recently has it had any traffic
at all.
I agress with the 'two-list' mania, one would suffice.
>Also, please could you tell us how to subscribe to the other list?
I'm forwarding this message to Travis as well.
Travis: did you realize that there is another Cope-y mailing
list (yours was first!)...we should perhaps merge the two.
The other one is set up my American Records...
  cope@american.recordings.com
/Ed (I seem to be the only person on both lists)
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From: John Nicholls <nicholls@case.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 17:29:43 +0100
Subject: Cope/Teardrops mailing list
I've heard from a member of the American Recordings Cope mailing list
that you have been maintaining a mailing list for some time.
I've suggested to the American Recoridngs MAiling List that the
two should merge ... somehow!!
Could you please add my name to the Cope mailing list you maintain?
I've been a fan since 1979, have seen Cope solo about 8 times,
saw the Teardrops twice, saw Cope as Kevin Stapleton twice (I
was a member of Club Zoo in Liverpool at the time).  I've been trying
to find a Cope mailing list for some time!
JP Nicholls ###################### nicholls@cray-communications.co.uk
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Well, this is intersting news!  I tried subscribing to the American Cope
list, but no response yet.  Maybe it's manual like mine?  (not automated)
If they only have a couple subscribers, they might simply want to subscribe
to this list.  That way they can inform us of releases and at the same time
get feedback from us.  If that was their agenda to begin with, then there is
indeed no use of a second Cope list.  But, if they want somehow to be in
CONTROL of what is posted, well, they just might want a list of their own.
I'll keep you all informed as to the "merger" - wow, this is exciting!
Trav
        

From: patrick.gaumond@fsa.ulaval.ca (Patrick Gaumond)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:46:48 EDT
Subject: Building a Cope Page
I have the oportunity to maintain a Web page for my own interrests. I was
looking at the one at American Recording and find it less than complete.
So if you have lyrics, photos or whatever you think that a Web Cope Page is
*supposed* to have just send them to me at patrick.gaumond@fsa.ulaval.ca
and I will try to build a *real* Cope Page as soon as possible.
I also give you this FTP site were you can upload your little treasures:
muffin.fsa.ulaval.ca in the /PUBLIC/COPE_DEPOSIT directory
Your help is very important because on this side of Atlantic there's not
much information about the Man.
Just by reading me you understand that english is not my first language so
any help to correct my mistakes will be appreciate once the Page is up !
Right now there's nothing there but once I receive stuff Iwill be able to
begin... I repeat, I just have the stuff from the albums so I need you !!!
Patrick
PS: The adress will be http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gaumondp/cope/
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From: bdaniel@origin.ea.com (BDaniel)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:06:35 UNDEFINED
To Jane who wanted info on how to get Droolian and Skellington--it's a real
pain to order stuff from Kak Ltd if you live in the states. They only accept
pounds streling and that probably means you have to go through a bank and do
an international money order, which is expensive as hell. I ended up paying
like 40 bucks for my CD of Skellington II. What I recommend is that you call
this CD mail order place in Britain called BeeBee's that somebody on this list
once mentioned. I got Queen Elizabeth mailed to me for a mere $19, postage
included! You do have to have a Visa or Mastercard though.
To reach BeeBee's dial 0245323676  (or something like that--I always forget
the international codes)
And to Howard--Is the Rabbi Joseph Gordon single still for sale? Email me at
bdaniel@origin.ea.com    Thanks
Britt
        

From: sra5@psu.edu (Sarah Andrews)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:34:18 -0400
Hi Trav - sorry I haven't written!
I just wanted to give a big thumbs-up to Eve's Prefab Sprout quote in her
sig. I rarely run into other people who really like them, or often nobody
has heard of them.
pax,
Sarah
"There's a sound across the alley
of cold metal touching skin.
And you can see if you look in her window
that she has gone and cut her hair again...
in straight lines." --Suzanne Vega
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Okay, on the "merge" - I am curious what you guys think...
Our options are:
1) subscribe AMERICAN RECORDINGS to THE CULTURE BUNKER.
   pros: quick, easiest for them as well as me, fewer people displaced to
         a different list (I am supposing they have fewer people)
   cons: see pros for #2
2) kill THE CULTURE BUNKER altogether, subscribe everyone to the AMERICAN
   RECORDINGS list.
   pros: they might have list-serve, which is easier on everyone in the long
         run.  Also, I have no idea how long I am going to retain computer
         access on this account.  It's my dad's work's computer, and that's
         why i'm still on there even though it's doubtable i will ever work
         at swa again   :(
   cons: all of you guys have to switch over to the AMERICAN list.  I'll
         have to transfer all my backissues, etc to the AMERICAN list.
         Well, it has to be done someday...
3) keep the 2-lists
   pros: lets us the list managers be lazy
   cons: redundancy
4) anything else???
ideas welcome
Trav
        

From: Edward S. Arthur <arthur@wrksys.enet.dec.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 09:06:20 EDT
Have you heard from the other list manager?
Initially I thought subscribing them to your
list was the best option but since your account
is temporary and dubious at best we should probably
just fold into them...
/Ed
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From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 01:19:50 +1200
>Our options are:
>
>1) subscribe AMERICAN RECORDINGS to THE CULTURE BUNKER.
>
>2) kill THE CULTURE BUNKER altogether, subscribe everyone to the AMERICAN
>   RECORDINGS list.
>
>3) keep the 2-lists
Well, (1) and (2) mean we don't miss any information, without getting the
double-up we'd have if we subscribed to both. If there's doubt about
whether you can keep your account, option (2) is probably better. And if
they do have list-serve, better still! (probably still not enough mail for
digest, tho...)
BTW Travis, sorry I haven't got the cover versions to you yet - pressure of
work and illness have got me all behind...
James.
James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago.
Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand
pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807
   * You talk to me as if from a distance
   * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time,
   * from another time                     (Brian Eno)
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From: peter7@mdx.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:39:11 GMT
Subject: subscribing
Travis,
        Thanks a lot for putting me on The Culture Bunker mailing list.
        If you want to subscribe to the American Recordings list (which,
presumably, you do), then you can do it by accessing the Cope Home Page at
American Recordings and going to "mail". It's fairly self-explanatory from
there.
        Alternatively, according to American you can subscribe by mailing
cope@american.recordings.com and including this in the main body of your
message:
        subscribe cope [your e-mail address]
I give no guarantee that this will work, though - good luck!
By the way, the URL for the Cope Home Page is something like:
http://american.recordings.com/American_Artists/Julian_Cope/
try it! I'll read the message I've just got from you now.....
Au Revoir.....
Pete
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From: John Nicholls <nicholls@case.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:42:34 +0100
Subject: That two-lists debate...
>1) subscribe AMERICAN RECORDINGS to THE CULTURE BUNKER.
>   pros: quick, easiest for them as well as me, fewer people displaced to
>         a different list (I am supposing they have fewer people)
There are 31 people on the American Recordings List (I asked the server).
Have you tried to contact the lsit maintainer?  What does she/he say?
>2) kill THE CULTURE BUNKER altogether, subscribe everyone to the
>   AMERICAN RECORDINGS list.
>   pros: they might have list-serve, which is easier on everyone
>     in the long run.  Also, I have no idea how long I am going
>     to retain computer
They use a "Majordomo" server, whatever that is.  Is that a
listserv thing? The Culture Bunker has a nice flavour, The AmRec
one seems a bit corporate/opportunist.  They seem to have set up
LOADS of mailing lists for loads of bands, but aren't really big
fans of the bands.
Maybe you can simply add the American Recordings list to this one
FOR THE TIME BEING, and transfer over to it completely if you
lose access to this computer.  That would be easy enough.
>3) keep the 2-lists
Hmmmmm... I'll have to post stuff twice/get stuff twice.
>4) anything else???
Big Mac and fries, please.  Oh, and that big furry rabbit in the
white hutch.
JP Nicholls ###################### nicholls@cray-communications.co.uk
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From: steve-jones@utulsa.edu (Steve Jones)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:52:17 -0600
Hi Travis:
Oy!  Just what I needed, another mailing list...I don't care WHO or WHAT
it's for, I just don't need more mail!  Culture Bunker's been great...I'm
for option 1...and maybe American could do a digest for Culture Bunker and
vice versa?  We don't seem to have enough traffic, though.
I'm flexi.
Cheers,
Sj
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From: silva@pc110.ccrc.uga.edu
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 95 12:52:14
Subject: To list or not to list...
TraV -
   Have you gotten with American about any of the options. It seems
to me that they could just maintain a web page for Julian with
a pointer to your list on it. Unless you're wanting to give up
heading this thing by now, that seems okay. They do nice Web
work over there and I can't imagine they have any or much more
info on what's going on with Julian these days than this list
does. When I spoke to someone there recently, they couldn't even
find out what was going on with him.
---------------------
JoE Silva
Carbohydrate Center, Univ of GA
220 Riverbend Rd
Athens, GA
(706) 542 - 4452
            4412 (FAX)
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wow!  a huge mail day!
i talked to [the server's sysop] today - she says I'll be able to
keep my account as long as I wish.  She also is willing to help me set up
listserv if you guys are interested.  I have been fixing up my batch files
recently, so things are relatively smooth.  But the listserv option is
up to you guys...
no word yet from the american recordings group.  i subscribed, but nothing
james - i'm anxious to hear your cover versions.  you can send some originals
too if you want!
as for www  - anyone know much about lynx?
i'm having to vt102 it
:)