Tue Jun 21 10:29:38 EDT 1994
Wow, glad to see people talking again!
I just backed up my archives again, so that means the latest
postings (the last couple months' worth) is now available as
back-issues, via anonymous ftp [it's web-based now -- Trav]
This last batch was "bunch12"
bunches 01 through 11 are available as well.
enjoy!
Tue Jun 21 12:42:12 EDT 1994
From: D Smith <erch03@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 94 15:07:04 BST
> has anybody heard when Jullian will be doing his tour of the
> Scotish Highlands, I heard July but don't know for sure.
Hello Travis,
Regards dates for Julian, the music press here has said July/August for
the Highlands and Islands tour.But nothing concrete yet I'm afraid.
I will let the list know when I get the details.
Cheers
Dave
Tue Jun 28 14:05:03 EDT 1994
I received a nice surprise the other day - Kak Ltd returned my
mail and also shipped me a CD of RITE! So yes, folks, it's
still available.
Also, they informed me that "Head On" will be released on
1 July 1994 (this Friday!). So I ordered that too!
I was really pleased by their prompt and personal service.
They even want to know the address for this mailing list!
Hopefully, AUTOGEDDON will come out next Tuesday in Britain...
Cross your fingers that there won't be any delays! Has anyone
seen a release data for AUTOGEDDON outside of the new-releases
bullitin here on the net?
Also, does anyone know where the Fear Loves This Place EPs are
being sold? I'd love to get CDs of those, too!
Anyway, take care and hope the July 4 UK release data is for
real!
Travis
Wed Jun 29 09:17:26 EDT 1994
From: brian <Brian.May@mel.dit.csiro.au>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 09:39:00 +1000
# Hopefully, AUTOGEDDON will come out next Tuesday in Britain...
# Cross your fingers that there won't be any delays! Has anyone
# seen a release data for AUTOGEDDON outside of the new-releases
# bullitin here on the net?
does anyone know if this disc will be available via KAK??
If so, costs for o/s mailings etc?? Ta,
brian
Fri Jul 1 09:17:25 EDT 1994
From: my life is the disease <fiddlerm@warnut.enet.dec.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:41:20 MET DST
Subject: Autogeddon
Autogeddon is reviewed in the press in the UK this week, its getting
7 or 8 out of 10 atyle reviews. The book 'Head On' has gotten good
reviews also. Both are available from next monday, with the book on sale
in Virgin stores only, otherwise available by mail order.
Mikef
Tue Jul 5 09:30:03 EDT 1994
Wow! A surpising amount of mail today! [the server] was down this
weekend - thunderstorm! :) With the holiday yesterday (for us Americans)
nobody was at work to start thunder back up.
But in any case, I received lots of mail! FOUR out them were transcriptions
of the post card that Julian Cope mailed to people on the Kak mailing
list. Two were track listings for Autogeddon. I'll post both track
listings, since they also contain mini-reviews, but I think to mail both
postcards (oops, I mean all four post cards) would be overkill. So I
guess I'll post the ones with extra information on them.
THANK YOU to everybody who took the time (LOTS OF TIME) to type in the
post cards, track listings, liner notes (WOW! What an effort!) and
reviews & news.
Okay, here are this weekends' latest mail:
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From: "A.J. Norman" <nja@leicester.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 09:14:49 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Autogeddon
Here's what's on "Autogeddon":
Autogeddon Blues 5.05
Madmax 3.37
Don't Call Me Mark Chapman 5.21
I Gotta Walk 2.25
Ain't No Gettin' Round Gettin' Round 5.00
Paranormal in the West Country: 8.29
Paranormal Pt. 1
Archdrude's Roadtrip
Kar-Ma-Kanik
Ain't But the One Way 4.14
s.t.a.r.c.a.r 11.28
It's like a "best of Cope" - some of it is reminiscent of "WSYM" or
"Fried", some of it is like "Skellington", there are a couple of
tracks similar to the sound of the last album. "Archdrude's
Roadtrip" is almost Country & Western, and the final track is like a
combination of "Shine on you Crazy Diamond" and "Safesurfer".
Island ought to be kicking themselves for letting him go.
--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England | Jedermann sein eigner Fussball
nja@le.ac.uk |
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From: "A.J. Norman" <nja@leicester.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 09:45:57 +0100 (BST)
Subject: The Arch-Drude Speaks!
Copey sent me a postcard on Saturday - here's what it said:
Drudes,
I've been away. Here's a Drudical Address to keep you all up to date
on what's been happening. Everyone on the Magog list will get this
card; the 1st of 3 this year. AVALON MILLS COPE was born 29th April.
She weighed 7lbs 11oz. My only live dates this year will be THE 3RD
ANNUAL HIGHLANDS AND ISLANDS TOUR in Scotland, this summer. My
autobiography, HEAD-ON, is finally released on Magog, early July. It
will be available from Virgin Megastores and on mail-order through KAK
Ltd. (*see below). AUTOGEDDON will be released July 4th. Will you do
me a favour? I'm totally pissed off by Island Records' cynical
forthcoming LP release of B-sides, etc. I hear it's going to be
called CREAMING OFF. A jade's trick, if you ask me! So as a favour
to me, if you can, please buy AUTOGEDDON in a chart return shop to
make this Drude look good. And if you have to buy CREAMING OFF, buy
it in a tiny unobtrusive local place. Thank you. P.S. The shot on
the postcard is of Maeshowe; a huge Neolithic tomb on Mainland Orkney.
THE MODERN ANTIQUARIAN is slowly nearing completion.
Awl-love, the Arch-D.
June 1994 (Common Era)
*Head-On #5.99 inc P&P. Cheques made payable to: KAK Ltd,
PO Box 3823, London N8 8TQ
The front of the postcard is a photo (by Copey) of a place where I'm
hoping to go in September. I love the tone of mixed spirituality and
hard-headed commercial sense.
--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England | Jedermann sein eigner Fussball
nja@le.ac.uk |
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From: scm@mfltd.co.uk (Shaun Murray)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 94 14:49:30 BST
Subject: Postcard from the Arch-Drude.
Hi everyone,
This is the first time I've posted to the list so I hope it gets
through OK. I have a pretty convoluted route I have to go through to
get this out.
I got a postcard from Julian over the weekend. Originally posted to me
on the 27th of June but there is another 30th of June postmark too.
The text that follow is straight off the card. The picture on the front
is a sort of space saucer shaped mound with a circular ditch around it
in a field of cows. It's in a muted monochrome-green colour. Sort of
like Sepia but green. in the bottom right corner is one of those led
databank date things with the date 7 19'92. It appears Julian can't get
a camera with C.E. after it's dates ;-)
I've kept the formatting of the text as in the card. Text in quotes
appears as Bold Italic. The # symbol at the end in #5.99 is a pound
sign. (ASCII doesn't have pound signs and anyway, this note has to go
through an EBCDIC mainframe :-( )
------------cut here-----------------------------
Drudes,
I've been away. Here's a Drudical Address to
keep you all up to date on what's been happen-
ing. Everyone on the Magog list will get this
card; the 1st of 3 this year. "Avalon Mills Cope"
was born 29th April. She weighed 7lbs 11oz. My
only live dates this year will be "The 3rd Annual
Highlands and Islands Tour" in Scotland, this
summer. My autobiography, "Head-On", is finally
released on Magog, early July. It will be avail-
able from Virgin Megastores and on mail-order
through KAK Ltd. (*See below). "Autogeddon"
will be released July 4th. Will you do me a
favour? I'm totally pissed off by Island Records'
cynical forthcoming LP release of B-sides, etc. I
hear it's to be called "Creaming Off". A jade's
trick if you ask me! So as a favour to me, if you
can, please buy "Autogeddon" in a chart return
shop to make this Drude look good. And if you
have to buy "Creaming Off", buy it in a tiny
unobtrusive local place. Thankyou. P.S. The
shot on the postcard is of Maeshowe; a huge
Neolithic tomb on Mainland Orkney.
"The Modern Antiquarian" is slowly nearing
completion.
Awl-love, the Arch-D.
June 1994 (Common Era)
*Head-On #5.99 inc P&P. Cheques made payable
to: KAK Ltd., PO Box 3823, London N8 BTQ
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ps. I got Autogeddon today (4th July) and I got Head-On on Saturday.
I'll post something separate about them. I imagine the list is going to
be busy in the next week or so.
Shaun. /\ (+44)(0)635 565219. scm@mfltd.co.uk /\ o__
Micro Focus, 26 West St. Newbury, Berks, RG13 1JT/\ / \/\ _.>/ _
/\/ \/\ \ / / \/ \ \/\/ / / \/\ (_) \(_)
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From: scm@mfltd.co.uk (Shaun Murray)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 94 16:46:42 BST
Subject: Autogeddon
Autogeddon.
===========
I've just bought (in the last half hour) a copy of "Autogeddon".
I don't have any equipment here to listen to it so this is just a track
listing and description of the artwork plus some bits of text off of
the sleeve.
The CD has the number "ECHCD 1" on "The Echo Label". Distributed by
Pinnacle in the UK. Copyright is K.A.K. Ltd.
track listing.
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No. Title Time
--- ------------------------------------------ -----
1. Autogeddon blues 5.05
2. Madmax 3.37
3. Don't call me Mark Chapman 5.21
4. I gotta walk 2.25
5. Ain't no gettin' round gettin' round 5.00
6. Paranormal in the West Country (MEDLEY) 8.29
i) Paranormal Pt. 1 ii) Archdrude's Roadtrip iii)Kar-ma-kanik
7. Ain't but the one way 4.14
8. s.t.a.r.c.a.r 11.28
Artwork.
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The CD sleeve is one big sheet of paper which folds out into six
squares. 2x3 ie.
+-----+-----+-----+
| | | |
+-----+-----+-----+
| | | |
+-----+-----+-----+
Front cover.
Picture of a Landrover outside a garage/petrol station. The sky is a
sunset scene behind it. It looks kind of false as if put there in a
studio rather than actually being there. The light on the garage and the
very straight edges on the bricks give it away. This seems to be a
deliberate thing to do rather than to deceive.
Most of the letters are missing from the sign on the garage leaving
just...
An lo . . . Druid
Inside, there is an explanation.
Back cover.
Picture of a sun. song titles, copyright notice (which I may have
flaunted here but hey, we're all going to buy it right?)
plus this bit of small print...
Autogeddon was inspired by Heathcote Williams' epic poem of the same
name, and a little incident concerning my pregnant wife (and myself)
and (pound sign)375,000 of yellow Ferrari in St. Martin's Lane, London,
England.
Inside.
Two pics of Julian in West Kennet Longbarrow holding a candle. Also
sporting a rather severe hair cut, the origins of which probably stem
back to some ancient tribe like the dongas. It's a sort of long mohican
affair. Long in the middle, skin at the sides. These take up two of the
six aquares.
There are two poems, one on each picture
>From the depths of Mike Hunt
From the depths of Mike Hunt
Screams the Mother
Boy, do I feel great
With the windlash downpoor
Salt from my Seas
& into my Open Wounds
Yes, Regal do I feel
Yes, Regal -
Very regal do I feel
!
And from the depths of Mike Hunt
I am in Pain
If you say 'Mike Hunt' quickly enough you end up with 'My Cunt' which
presumably is not printable on CD sleeves or perhaps JC is just a shy
retiring sort of bloke. ;-)
I'm not too sure how 'Mike Hunt' translates into American either.
A Woofer in Tweeter's Clothing
I'm a Hard Puff
I'm an Angry Puff
I'm a woofer in Tweeter's clothing
Of the hard stuff
I can Get enough
I'm a Woofer in Tweeter's clothing.
Had an overload of the Overlord
O. Pitiful self-Loathing
I'm a woofer in Tweater's clothing.
Other three squares.
The other three squares are...
Square One.
A picture of "O'Connor Motor Co." which is next door to "O'Connor
Funeral Directors". Another fake sky too. Across the picture is the
quote
"When will the genius arise so strong that the strong
shall fear him, so simple that the beast can understand him?"
Vachel Lindsay (1879-1931)
underneath the picture is this text...
Blues for a Post-literate Society. But first a quote fromthe Family
Bible: Deuteronomy 21, Verses 10-14.
10. When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord
thy God hath delivered then into thine hands, and thou hast
taken them captive.
11. And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast desire
unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife.
12. Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall
shave her head; and pare her nails;
13. And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her and
shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and mother a
full month; and after that thou shalt go unto her, and be her
husband, and she shall be thy wife.
14. And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt
let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all
for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou
hast hunmbled her.
Is this our Bible? The Shame of Anne Widdecombe.
We Can not live in a World with even vestiges of such values. We must
make war upon it.
Square Two.
A picture of West Kennet Lonngbarrow with a large fluffy white cloud in
a blue sky above it. The quote on the picture is...
"Space-age couple-Why don't you flex your magic muscle?"
Captain Beefheart
The text underneath is.....
Paranormal in the W.Country
Paranormal pt.1 was recorded inside the main burial-chamber of West
Kennet Longbarrow, signposted on the A4, between Calne and Malborough,
Wiltshire, England; 18th November 1993 (C.E). That night, the army were
booming out their playwar guns 20 miles away on Salisbury Plain, but
the ground still shook every time they fired. West Kennet Longbarrow is
the greatest Neolithic Temple of the Dead in England. It has 5
chambers, and was in use for over 1500 years, between 4200-5700 years
ago. Over 50 bodies were discovered, many smashed into smithereens as
though in Shamanic frenzy. The enormous barrow is over 300 feet long,
and the largest stones are 50 tons and 12' tall.
Thighpaulsandra and I recorded in the largest and main chamber at the
end. Paranormal Pt.1 was the first take, as are all the other songs on
this album.
Square three.
This is a picture of Julian's (and Dorian's presumably as he didn't
drive then) car after what looks like an engine fire. it's a C reg
Vauxhall Cavalier. reg C568 HHJ. It looks like someone is loading it
onto the back off a tow truck with ramps though the back of the picture
is replaced with a red cloud sky which on first looking appeared to be
flames but isn't. The quote on the picture is...
"One who has no god, as he walks along the street
Headache envelopes him like a garment."
Carved on the tomb of King Tukulti-Nunurti, 1st Assyrian Dark-age, 3300
years ago.
The text underneath reads....
2 years ago, we returned from Xmas at my Mother-in-Law's, on Long
Island, New York, to find that our car had exploded as it stood in the
driveway. We had not driven it for 3 weeks. Our neighbour told us that
it just blew up at midnight, taking a tree and an old Borgward Isabella
coupe with it. We calclated the time difference, which was 5 hours. At
the moment of the explosion, we had been watching Cheech & Chong's Pot
Classic - "Up In Smoke".
Other side of the Inside (Inside the Inside?)
This is one great big picture taking up all six squares. it is a
picture of JC in a stone circle. Behind him is Sellafield Nuclear
Powerstation. The picture is orangey-brown and is a negative.
AUTOGEDDON is written large across the top.
Text on the inside inside is as follows.....
AUTOGEDDON NOTES DEEP IN ENEMY TERRITORY, (From) GREYCROFT STONE
CIRCLE, OVERLOOKED BY SELLAFIELD, SEASCALE, W. CUMBRIA, (NORTHERN
ENGLAND); ALL FOOL'S DAY, APRIL 1ST 1993 (C.E.)
This is the saddest place. A beautiful stone circle looking out on to
the Irish Sea at the west, and the Cumbrian Mountains in the east. Yet
400 yards away is as Un-splendid a Motherfucker as there be on the
planet - Sellafield Nuclear Power Station. Of course, it's affected
everyone's attitude into Who-gives-a-fuck Land. The new land owner has
ploughed right up to the stones of the circle. The outlier*, which was
until recently north of the monument, is now unceremoniously dumped
next to a circle stone (I'm sitting on it whilst writing this note).
Earlier on, Dorian and I went into Sellafield to see how the Greedheads
control our view of this Mofo. Ha! Those bastards are more cynical that
we thought. You can even get yourself a china model of the visitor's
centre, but there are no pictures of the Dominent Bastard Machine that
is visible for 10 miles away. Bland-faced All-smiling custodians asked
us if they could help and I had to get out of the hell they created
with their Deathtrip Lies. Now we sit in an open pasture on a full blue
day wondering how it ever came to this. Die Motherfuckers! This son is
risin'!
*The outlier was a 4 foot tall standing stone that was placed about 20
yards north of the stone circle, about 4500 years ago. Cambridge
University's Engineer Emeritus and Visionary Archaeo-astronomer,
Alexander Thom, discovered that the outlier was sighted on the star,
Deneb.
"Concerning the Photograph on the front sleeve." On July 7th, 1993
(C.E.), I was returning home to Wessex from an aborted tour of the
Irish Castles. In the Car were my daughter, Albany, my wife Dorian, and
my great friend and drummer, J. Rooster Cotton. I had been violently
ill before the Belfast Castle show, and now we were driving home in
despair after cancelling the Dublin show. But as we passed a tiny Welsh
village near Betws-y-Coed, I looked up and saw this old garage calling
to me. An Autogeddon sign if ever there was one.
"The only way out is UP"
Martin Bramah
"...you who are poets
Bear the responsibility for everything
concerning humankind.
You shall redeem concentration camps
and the bestialities of police
and the putrefaction of affluent regimes."
Egon Bondy (in prison), Prague, Czechoslovakia; 1976.
John Knox
Haste ye
Don't ye See?
The Motherfuckers are upon us!
They raze the walls.
Like Cattle they want us All to be - like Cattle!
We be not Cattle. Not Cattle but Men. Awaken!
Awaken from your stup-i-faction!
Credits
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Directed by JULIAN COPE
Synthesized and Mixed by THIGHPAULSANDRA
AUTOGEDDON was played by Julian Cope, Moon-eye, Donald Ross Skinner,
Rooster, Jill & K-R Frost, Thighpaulsandra and Mavis Grind.
Madmax was recorded and mixed by SHAUN HARVEY
s.t.a.r.c.a.r. was recorded by SHAUN HARVEY & THIGHPAULSANDRA
Photography by JULIAN COPE except;
Julian Cope in West Kennet Longbarrow by THIGHPAULSANDRA
Sleeve panel beaten at ART GARAGE by ROB CARTER
Executive Producer - SEBASTIAN SHELTON
Publicity - MICK HOUGHTON
Special Thanks to:
MOON-EYE s.t.a.r.c.a.r. guitar star.
JOHN KENNEDY for 14 years of Cope business.
LESLEY ALEXANDER for sorting the greedheads.
THE GRINDS All things to One man.
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Phew, that's it. apart from saying that it came also with a card for
ordering Rite, The Skellington Chronicles and Head-on. KAK Ltd is at
PO Box 3823, London N8 8TQ, if you want to contact them.
Next up I'll post something about Head-on though I think I'll leave
that for a couple of days after I've read a bit of it. If your biting
at the bit for Head-On, I got mine at Virgin in London. You can get it
also through KAK. It has no ISBN number so I presume it will be hard to
get other than those two outlets.
Shaun. /\ (+44)(0)635 565219. scm@mfltd.co.uk /\ o__
Micro Focus, 26 West St. Newbury, Berks, RG13 1JT/\ / \/\ _.>/ _
/\/ \/\ \ / / \/ \ \/\/ / / \/\ (_) \(_)
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From: GAVIN@LIBRARY.TEESSIDE.AC.UK
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 94 09:22:04 BST
Hi,
Well did everyone get their postcards from Julian today?
If nobody beats me to it I'll type it up this dinner time,
I forgot to bring it to work.
Basically what he's saying is that he thinks 'Creaming Off' is
a rip of and you should buy it from an out-the-way sort of
independent store, whereas 'Autogeddon' he would wish
eveyrybody to buy in a chart-shop-type record chain (HMV, Virgin
etc) to make him look a good Drude!!. Well he put it slightly
more eloquently, and said there were to be 2 more postcards.
Bugger the spelling mistakes
bye for now,
Gavin.
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From: GAVIN@LIBRARY.TEESSIDE.AC.UK
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 94 10:24:32 BST
Hi again,
Autogeddon is out today, I just bought it. There's nothing more
to say really, everyone knows the track listings, and I wouldn't
want to spoil anyones fun by describing it.
bye
Gavin.
Tue Jul 5 09:51:29 EDT 1994
Hi there!
Well, I hope everybody got that last post (the really long one). It's
nice to see things picking up around here!
Um, I have a request (oh no, it's request time!) I was wondering if
someone there in Britain would be willing to mail me a CD of Autogeddon,
in exchange for either money (CD + shipping and handling + a few extra
dollars as thanks) or a CD from here (the States).
I'm sure there are other people on this list who live outside the U.K.
and who'd love to get AUTOGEDDON early too!
So please, if you live in Britain and are willing to help out us
poor Americans :) and don't mind making a couple of bucks in the process,
please post a message to this list! It would make a Poor American very happy!
Thanks!
Travis
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Oh yeah, about this postcard that many people have been receiving:
How did you get on the Kak mailing list? Did you get automatically placed
on it when you ordered RITE or SKELLINGTON CHRONICLES? Did you get
any information saying you were subscribed to it?
I ask, because a while ago I got RITE from then, with a postcard that had
a b/w picture of a mound on the front. This postcard basically asked some
questions that I had put to them in a letter with my request for RITE.
Anyway, I'd like to get on the Kak Ltd mailing list, but I don't quite
know the process.
Oh yeah, I ordered HEAD ON from then - hope it arrives soon!
Travis
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If you are a Poor American (or Poor Canadian or Poor Aussie...) and would
like an early CD of Autogeddon, please e-mail the list, and I will keep
track of both volunteers (from Britain) and requesters (non-Britain) and
will try to provide "matches" for everyone.
Example:
Travis Emmitt, would like CD of AUTOGEDDON. Willing to pay for cost of CD,
shipping and handling, plus a little extra (say ten dollars).
Bill Clinton, would like TAPE of AUTOGEDDON. Willing to trade a Michael
Jackson THRILLER CD for it.
etc...
(the Bill Clinton one is a joke, but the Travis Emmitt one is genuine.)
Anyway, August 9 is an awful long wait!!!
Travis
Tue Jul 5 10:17:13 EDT 1994
From: GAVIN@LIBRARY.TEESSIDE.AC.UK
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 94 14:52:58 BST
Hi,
well the activity has spured me on to write.
Is anybody else going to The Highlands and Islands
tour (when he finally gets round to tell us when).
Me and my mate were going to visit a few stone circles,
sorry, MEGOLITHIC monuments, during the day then go to the gig
on the evening. Anybody else going ? and how are we going to find
out when they are ( 2nd postcard?)
Listening to starcar full blast scares the shit out of me towards
the end. Also, I dont think Island would have allowed him to release
Autogeddon, the dead fussy you know 8^)
Gavin
Inbred fuckin'em palace scum ( what a line ! )
Tue Jul 5 10:37:25 EDT 1994
From: scm@mfltd.co.uk (Shaun Murray)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 94 15:17:43 BST
Subject: How I got on the KAK list
I got on the KAK mailing list at a gig.
I was at the last night of the JC shows at the Town & Country Club in London.
The ones where he played a 3 and a half hour set with no support. This was
just after he split with Island, just after Jehovahkill. The best gig I've
been to probably.
Anyway, at the show there was these little forms for "Do you want to be
informed about Rite" so I filled one in.
A month later or so I got a postcard about Rite and ordered it. I also got a
Skellington Chronicles one just before that was released too.
I imagine, Travis, that you'll be getting postcard's from KAK too now that
they have your address.
Shaun. /\ (+44)(0)635 565219. scm@mfltd.co.uk /\ o__
Micro Focus, 26 West St. Newbury, Berks, RG13 1JT/\ / \/\ _.>/ _
/\/ \/\ \ / / \/ \ \/\/ / / \/\ (_) \(_)
Wed Jul 6 09:37:21 EDT 1994
From: D Smith <erch03@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 10:47:26 BST
Hi Travis,
Re: Highlands and Islands tour
Just heard from a friend that in this weeks Melody Maker (UK Mag) that
some dates have been confirmed and that these dates are the only gigs
this year!
Aberdeen Lemon Tree...........29th/30th Jult
Findhorn .....................4th Aug
Cheers
Dave
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TONY BOWDEN (dejavu@athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk -or-
u8915431@qub.ac.uk -or-
aj998@yfn.ysu.edu)
is willing to get copies of AUTOGEDDON to anyone outside Britain who's
interested. He's just got back form holidays and hasn't got his own copy yet,
but should be getting it this afternoon.
(sorry, Tony, my mailer deleted your original message, hope you don't mind
me paraphrasing!)
Thu Jul 7 08:36:35 EDT 1994
From: GAVIN@LIBRARY.TEESSIDE.AC.UK
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 09:08:42 BST
Subject: resend tour info pleASE
Hi,
Yeh I forgot about my surname, not been allowed to have a
cheque book I forgot you needed it! Going to phone the
Lemmon Tree in Aberdeen today to find out about tickets
for Cope. Did you receive any more info on the tour dates?
i.e. is it called the Lemmon Tree at all ? 'cos I can't
remember.
Bye for now,
Gavin Gretton.
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Got HEAD ON yesterday, already on page 100 (I'm a slow reader). Interesting
book. It's reminiscent of Myles Palmer's THE NEW WAVE EXPLOSION, which also
dealt with punk and post-punk British music.
I was amazed how quickly Kak Ltd got th e book to me - it's postmarked the
1st of july. That means it took only 5 days! And three of those five days
were the weekend (monday was an American holiday).
Amazing!
What do you all think of HEAD ON? The only songs from AUTOGEDDON I've heard
are Paranormal in the West Country and Don't Call Me Mark Chapman.
Thu Jul 7 10:34:28 EDT 1994
From: GAVIN@LIBRARY.TEESSIDE.AC.UK
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 14:57:20 BST
Well,
I looked up The Lemon Tree in the Yellow pages, Electronic
Yellow Pages, Normal coloured pages and directory enquiries.
Nobody knows what the Lemon Tree is. Have I got the wrong name?
Anybody got Magog or KAK tel. no. so I can try them.
Help, I need to see my favourite baldy!
Gavin.
Thu Jul 7 16:31:40 EDT 1994
From: Michael Edwards <Q0J0@unb.ca>
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 16:35:13 ADT
Subject: The Lemon Tree
I can assure you that it IS called the Lemon Tree, and it is the
coolest place for concerts in my home town of Aberdeen. Of course, I
no longer live there and haven't seen Julian Cope perform there, but I
do have the bootlegs to prove it. But try as I might, I cannot find
the phone number in any of the music magazines that I have even though
I KNOW that I have seen it. Sorry. And I can't even name the street
which it is found on either (although I could give you directions to
it). But if you call the operator then they should be able to give you
a number. Otherwise I shall try to get it for you somehow.
Michael
Fri Jul 8 12:45:16 EDT 1994
Hey, folks! I'm almost done with HEAD ON! Great book! Julian has quite
a sense of humor, and he is very, very human! His LSD trip scenes are
hilarious! What a guy!
I'll be leaving to visit my girlfriend this weekend, so don't panic if the
list is too quiet! If you want to post your review of AUTOGEDDON, that
would be great - it'd be interesting to hear how people's first impressions
of it are.
Also, feel free to comment about HEAD ON!
Take care, everybody.
Talk to y'all on Monday...
Travis
Mon Jul 11 08:46:06 EDT 1994
From: D Smith <erch03@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 9:57:51 BST
> Well,
> I looked up The Lemon Tree in the Yellow pages, Electronic
> Yellow Pages, Normal coloured pages and directory enquiries.
> Nobody knows what the Lemon Tree is. Have I got the wrong name?
> Anybody got Magog or KAK tel. no. so I can try them.
> Help, I need to see my favourite baldy!
> Gavin.
The phone numbers are as follows,
Lemon Tree ...................0224-6422-30
Findhorn Universal Hall.......0309-6911-70
(phoned for tickets on Thursday at 4.15 and got them 8 next morning,
good old Royal Mail)
Cheers
Dave
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Just finished HEAD ON last night... Nice story, now I want the rest of it!
I found KILIMANJARO and WILDER on vinyl in a used record store near D.C.
this past weekend. KILI had "Suffocate" and the cover w/ the zebras in front
of Mt. Kilimanjaro. WILDER had the flowers. I only got KILI (for Suffocate)
and it was $3.99 :) :) :)
Did they ever release a CD of KILI w/ Suffocate, or with the Zebras on the
cover?
Trav
Mon Jul 11 09:42:04 EDT 1994
From: GAVIN@LIBRARY.TEESSIDE.AC.UK
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:05:48 BST
Hi,
eventually got the number for the Lemmon Tree. Tickets are
#8.00 each, got a really quick delivery as well.
See everybody there, how about a pre-concert piss up ?
anybody ???
Gavin.
(Traff your CD is in the post)
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From: "A.J. Norman" <nja@leicester.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 14:20:43 +0100 (BST)
> Just finished HEAD ON last night... Nice story, now I want the rest of it!
I bought it on Sat, and finished it last night. It's very
well-written, very funny, and makes you wonder how Cope survived to
make one solo album, let alone ten.
Pete Burns was on "Pop Quiz" this weekend - UK programme on Saturday
nights. I had bought "Head On" earlier that day, and read the bits
describing Burns's role as one of the leaders of the Liverpool punk
scene. I had also seen trailers for "Pop Quiz", and wondered who the
extremely StRaNgE looking woman was. It was Burns. He had long dark
hair, pancake makeup, bright pink lipstick (and his lips have probably
been "done" with plastic surgery), and contact lenses which made the
whole of his eyes black. Worse, he seemed completely dull - usually
he's pretty raucous and savage, but he seemed half-asleep throughout
the show.
> I found KILIMANJARO and WILDER on vinyl in a used record store near D.C.
> this past weekend. KILI had "Suffocate" and the cover w/ the zebras in front
> of Mt. Kilimanjaro. WILDER had the flowers. I only got KILI (for Suffocate)
> and it was $3.99 :) :) :)
>
> Did they ever release a CD of KILI w/ Suffocate, or with the Zebras on the
> cover?
Don't you mean "Reward"? "Suffocate" was years later than
"Kilimanjaro". I don't think the Zebra cover was ever on a CD, my
vinyl version has the zebras (and the lyrics on the inside).
--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England | Jedermann sein eigner Fussball
nja@le.ac.uk |
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SUFFOCATE appeared both on KILIMANJARO and later on YOU DISAPPEAR FROM VIEW.
Basically, the "Zebra" version of KILI has "Suffocate" while the "Faces"
version has "Second Head" and "Bouncing Babies."
"Reward" is on both versions that I have. i think there is a third
version, Andrew's Zebra Vinyl version, which doesn't have SUFFOCATE.
Also, the song orders are different on the two versions I have.
Mon Jul 11 09:57:30 EDT 1994
From: "A.J. Norman" <nja@leicester.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 14:45:50 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Suffocate
> Don't you mean "Reward"? "Suffocate" was years later than
> "Kilimanjaro". I don't think the Zebra cover was ever on a CD, my
> vinyl version has the zebras (and the lyrics on the inside).
>
> SUFFOCATE appeared both on KILIMANJARO and later on YOU DISAPPEAR FROM VIEW.
>
> Basically, the "Zebra" version of KILI has "Suffocate" while the "Faces"
> version has "Second Head" and "Bouncing Babies."
>
> "Reward" is on both versions that I have. i think there is a third
> version, Andrew's Zebra Vinyl version, which doesn't have SUFFOCATE.
>
> Also, the song orders are different on the two versions I have.
Very odd! As far as I know, the original Kilimanjaro was the same as
the Zebra version I have, except that "Reward" wasn't on it. As Cope
mentions in his book, the record company wanted to put "Reward" onto
the album after it had become a hit, and Cope wanted a "cleaner" cover
(i.e. one without the various members of the band who had since been
sacked). "Second Head" and "Bouncing Babies" were on both versions,
in the UK at least (these were pre-CD days, of course). I have never
seen a vinyl or CD copy with "Suffocate" on it in this country. What
is the American track listing?
--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England | Jedermann sein eigner Fussball
nja@le.ac.uk |
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Um, I think it's:
Ha ha I'm drowning
Suffocate
Ah, shoot, I forget the rest. One thing, though. SLEEPING GAS is on
side 2, which is different.
Anyway, TROUSER PRESS mentions the three versions or Kili, and one of the
things it comments on is the switch in covers, as well as the dropping of
"Suffocate", which TROUSER PRESS thinks is a brilliant song.
I can try to get the track listing when I am back at home.
Also, this version of Kili is by "The Teardrop Explodes, featuring Julian
Cope." I don't know if that's on the other versions.
Travis
Tue Jul 12 09:54:40 EDT 1994
Okay, I listened to my KILI LP this morning. Here's the track listing:
SIDE 1
Ha Ha I'm Drowning
Treason
Suffocate
Reward
When I Dream
SIDE 2
Went Crazy
Brave Boys Keep Their Promises
Sleeping Gas
Books
Thief of Bagdad
Poppies in the Field
Other info: 1980 Phonogram, manufactured exclusively for SKYCLAD, Inc.
29087-66671 Lucky 7
There is no lyric sheet with this LP.
"Reward" sounds a little different. Crisper, with the piano higher in the
mix (first time I realized there was a piano in "Reward". Of course, it
might just have been a hallucination (yeah, I'm dropping acid and wearing
the same clothes for a month now, just like our hero...).
I'm not quite sure right now where I first heard SUFFOCATE. I think the
version on YOU DISAPPEAR FROM VIEW is the string quartet version. Maybe
it was the KILI record that I dubbed from my radio station back at
school... Hmmm...
Anyway, that's the info on it. I think it's quite a prize. For some
reason, either because of the different track listing, or the "warmer" feel
of vinyl, I thought this LP of KILI was far more exciting than the CD of
it that I have. Anybody else feel the same?
Travis
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Has anyone heard the Teardrop bootleg PESTILENCE? Cope mentions it in HEAD ON
and I've heard it alluded to a couple of times before.
It would be great if we could get a BOOTLEG library together. I have five
boots now, plus almost all of the B-sides and EP tracks. If you are
interested in trading, let me know!
Well, back to work.
Travis