The Comsat Fellowship #02

1997-06-09 to 1997-10-05

Trav tripalot.com/travis Mon Jun 9 12:25:29 EDT 1997

Welcome to the new home for these pages. I've made some mods in the process - let me know what you think!

Trav

Trav tripalot.com/travis Mon Jun 9 12:26:17 EDT 1997

Also check out the newest/oldest post first option!

Trav

Alexander King ajdking@hotmail.com http://www.shef.ac.uk/students/md/md911783/ Sat Jun 14 12:15:48 EDT 1997

Calling all Comsat Angels fans in Israel!

If there are any other Comsat Angels in Israel I would be delighted to hear from you. I would also be incredibly surprised(!)

Regards,

Dr. Alexander King, Jerusalem.

Hilmar Kraft hkraft@compuserve.com Thu Jun 19 06:11:28 EDT 1997

The search is over! After almost 2 years of looking for it, I finally received a copy of Fire On The Moon (Thanks Juergen B if you ever read this).

Well, I think it is a great album, and just cannot understand how this was not released. It is very much in the spirit of Chasing Shadows and My Mind's Eye and contains some real killer tracks. I really don't understand how, apparently, nobody of band or record company was happy with it. Come on guys, you shouldn't have been *that* critical - anything you put out is still great enough even if for whatever reasons it didn't totally turn out the way you wanted.

Anyway, it was incredible to hear this fine 1990 music which sounded so fresh and new today.

Greetings from Berlin, Germany

Trav tripalot.com/travis Wed Jun 25 14:10:53 EDT 1997

Hi! Glad you guys found the list again!

Is Fire on the Moon the Dream Command album? I found that CD in a cut-out bin about a year and a half ago, but the disc itself had a notch cut out of it and I never got the guts up to putting it in my CD player to hear it. Anyone know if cut-out notches will destroy a CD player? :)

Also, I notice that CD-Now has really cut down on the amount of Comsats material they carry. I think it's down to MY MIND'S EYE now. Anyone know of a better on-line Comsats source?

Trav

p.s. I will be leaving for a 2-month vacation tomorrow (Chicago, Alaska, Colorado, San Francisco, etc.), so I'll see you in late August!

Alan Lee alan.lee@btinternet.com Wed Jul 9 17:13:40 EDT 1997

Any bets on what's going to arrive first - The release of 'Mood X' or the next sighting of Hale-Bopp?

Ian Lloyd ILloyd8208@aol.com Wed Jul 9 18:04:39 EDT 1997

I can get hold of dutch copies of Unravelled, The Glamour and the CD singles Field of Tall Flowers and The Cutting Edge.

I've been promised a 'good price' and I am quite happy to pass them onto to CSA disciples at cost (incl P+P of course). I haven't thought through the mechanics yet but if anyone is interested please e-mail me.

George A. Goode helix@usa.net Sun Jul 27 11:38:19 EDT 1997

Travis recently said:

Is Fire on the Moon the Dream Command album?

Yes it is.

I found that CD in a cut-out bin about a year and a half ago, but the disc itself had a notch cut out of it and I never got the guts up to putting it in my CD player to hear it. Anyone know if cut-out notches will destroy a CD player? :)

If the notch is cut in the outer edge of the disc, and the cut is smooth (no burr), I can't see any reason why it won't play. A CD tracks from the inside to the outside, and since 'Fire on the moon' is around 40 mins total playing time, the outside edge of the disc is not in use.

Also, I notice that CD-Now has really cut down on the amount of Comsats material they carry.

Note the Thunderbird label issue of 'The Glamour' was deleted in May, 1997 so RPM must take some of the heat for this as well.

CDEurope has a large selection of Comsat material, but best o'luck actually getting anything, many of their listings will come back out of stock/ backorders etc. etc.

In my quest to find 'Land' and/or '7 day weekend' on CD, I have tried the following vendors:

I am now experiencing similar difficulties on Chameleons material as well. Fear not, gentle fans, they aren't doing this _just_ to Comsat's Connoiseurs. :)

regards,

George.

Alan Lee alan.lee@btinternet.com Mon Jul 28 17:36:17 EDT 1997

Got hold of a vinyl copy of 'Fire On The Moon' from Colosseum records in New Jersey, located via GEMM. Having read other peoples' comments about it, I wasn't expecting much, but all I can say having listened to it is - What's the problem?!

I agree with Hilmar - it's a great album, and I don't think I would have been disappointed if I'd heard it in 1990, not knowing what was coming in later years. It sounds like the natural follow on from Chasing Shadows, with mostly better songs. Tracks like 'Celestine', 'Venus Hunter' and 'She's Invisible' have got all the usual Comsat hooks, and the overall sound is unmistakable.

Colosseum may have some other copies in stock, as they still come out on a GEMM search, and you can email them at Co1osseum@aol.com (the third character is the number 1 not the letter l).

GEMM can be found at www.gemm.com

Tony Kinson kinski.yearzero@dial.pipex.com Tue Jul 29 16:46:51 EDT 1997

Check out: http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/moodx.html

It's coming...

Anna Mairs lamairs@eisa.net.au Wed Aug 13 18:09:58 EDT 1997

Dear All

I hope you are well.

I ordered 'Fire On The Moon' by the Dream Command from Co1osseum. Apparently, it got shipped on June 25, 1997. Today it's 14 August and I'm still waiting. What do you think, maybe it was shipped in a tugboat. Hehehe. I'm beginning to now have doubts, whether it'll ever get here. I live Australia, so I'm not sure whether the distant has anything to do with the delay. I ordered CD's from CDEurope and they were delivered to me, would you believe in just 8 days.

I just wish you guys would stop rubbing it in about Fire On The Moon. I'm just so envious.

I also agree with George A. Goode about the unavailability of obtaining CD's by The Chameleons. I tried CDEurope and that order was never filled. It would have been nice of them though to explain why.

I think this site is great, but I have a question that I would like answered. Why isn't there a lyric site for the Comsat albums? Unless it's here and I haven't seen it. I think this site is lacking a lyric page. Most other sites have one, I would like to suggest that one be created soon. It would be great don't you think?

Why don't we do what The Chameleons do, that is start an email site that when fans subscribe and use it, everyone on the list will be sent that letter, therefore not have to come to this site every time we want to know what's happening with hot gossip on the band, and knowing about it simultaneously once it's sent. I would like to know what everyone thinks about this and if it can be done.

I've been trying to get in contact with Bill O'Reilly, at this stage I haven't been able to. Bill if you read this could you please write to me, I've been unable to send you an email after you wrote to me months ago. I was very interested in what you had to say in that letter you wrote me and I would like to speak to you some more, and this was the only way I would be able to get in contact with you. I hope other Comsat fans don't mind me using this site to track you down. Thanks

That's enough for now, so lets talk about the above issues for awhile OK. I would be interested to see what the feedback would be from other Comsat fans.

Anna

PS : Oooops! Sorry about the length of this letter, but I haven't contributed for awhile.

Ian Lloyd ILloyd8208@aol.com Thu Aug 14 19:01:41 EDT 1997

'Fire on the Moon' is worth grabbing if for no other reason than to listen to 'Celestine'.

If the Comsats vinyl and CD are getting thin on the ground, all the more reason to convince RPM of the demand for the Jive/Island releases. E-mail them via their web site.

Has anyone got any video/film footage of CSA live ?

Anna Mairs lamairs@esia.net.au Fri Aug 15 04:28:55 EDT 1997

Dear All

I hope you are well.

I ordered 'Fire On The Moon' by the Dream Command from Co1osseum. Apparently, it got shipped on June 25, 1997. Today it's 14 August and I'm still waiting. What do you think, maybe it was shipped in a tugboat. Hehehe. I'm beginning to now have doubts, whether it'll ever get here. I live Australia, so I'm not sure whether the distant has anything to do with the delay. I ordered CD's from CDEurope and they were delivered to me, would you believe in just 8 days.

I just wish you guys would stop rubbing it in about Fire On The Moon. I'm just so envious.

I also agree with George A. Goode about the unavailability of obtaining CD's by The Chameleons. I tried CDEurope and that order was never filled. It would have been nice of them though to explain why.

I think this site is great, but I have a question that I would like answered. Why isn't there a lyric site for the Comsat albums? Unless it's here and I haven't seen it. I think this site is lacking a lyric page. Most other sites have one, I would like to suggest that one be created soon. It would be great don't you think?

Why don't we do what The Chameleons do, that is start an email site that when fans subscribe and use it, everyone on the list will be sent that letter, therefore not have to come to this site every time we want to know what's happening with hot gossip on the band, and knowing about it simultaneously once it's sent. I would like to know what everyone thinks about this and if it can be done.

I've been trying to get in contact with Bill O'Reilly, at this stage I haven't been able to. Bill if you see this could you please write to me, I've been unable to send you an email after you wrote to me months ago. I was very interested in what you had to say in that letter you wrote me and I would like to speak to you some more, and this was the only way I would be able to get in contact with you. I hope other Comsat fans don't mind me using this site to track you down. Thanks

That's enough for now, so lets talk about the above issues for awhile OK. I would be interested to see what the feedback would be from other Comsat fans.

Anna

PS : Oooops! Sorry about the length of this letter, but I haven't contributed for awhile.

Boudewijn Gelaudie boudy@xs4all.nl Fri Aug 15 16:07:28 EDT 1997

Dear Anna,

I agree. It would be nice to have some sort of a mailing-list.

On the other hand, when I look at the messages send to this discussion list (f.i. only 5 in the month of july) I wonder if there are enough Comsat-fans with access to internet to make it worth while.

I'm on the Echo & the Bunnymen-list and from what I'm told I know it takes a lot of work behind the screen to make it work.

You have to be pretty sure there's enough people out there wanting to be on the list.

As long as that's not the case, I'm glad we are given at least this opportunity to communicate with each other.

Let's all hope Stephen and the others will come alive again very soon. That'll give us something to talk about.

Cheers, Boudewijn (Amsterdam-Holland)

Pat Lynch patrick.lynch@virgin.net Fri Aug 15 17:04:48 EDT 1997

Hi All!

I've only recently hooked up to the net and I'm amazed and indeed overjoyed to find someone (that's you Travis!) who's not only into the Comsats and Copey but who is also prepared to give the time up to put something as brilliant as this up on the net. More power to you, Sir!!

Anna, Ian is right about 'Celestine', although 'Ice Sculpture' and 'Venus Hunter' are great tunes on what is in all honesty not one of the best things the Comsats ever put their name to...or, rather, didn't, if you see what I mean!!

I think some lyrics on the web site is a great idea - anyone remember the lyric booklets the band sent out years and years ago? Wouldn't sound samples be great, too?

The band seem woefully under represented on video. Somewhere in a big box I'm pretty sure I've got the video for 'The Cutting Edge' which is actually rather beautiful in a sort of Talk Talk way. The only other video I've seen is the one for the re-recording of 'Independance Day'. I saw it on a pub jukebox (whatever happened to those anti-social devices?) many moons ago. All I can remember about the video was that I didn't like it!! I've also got them on the Tube doing 'The Cutting Edge' and 'Flying Dreams' and I just about recall them on 'The Old Grey Whistle Test' doing 'Independance Day' (I think) and 'Ju Ju Money' (definitely).

Boudewijn, is, I fear, right to say that there is probably not enough interest in the band (now defunct, let's not forget) for a 'proper' mailing list. However, we have this, which seems fine to me.

With all interest in the upcoming 'Mood X' release, I wonder how much interest there will be in whatever the remaining band members do. We all (and please note, I AM generalising here) tend to hook on to the lead singers of bands we are into, and so, Steve's solo work will, I guess, whip up alot of interest from us. But, I wonder how much we will care about a new band that happens to have a guy called Mic Glaisher on drums. Just a thought. Anyone care to comment?

Anyway, I'm glad I've stopped lurking - I look forward to posting again soon.

See Ya

Pat

Boudewijn Gelaudie boudy@xs4all.nl Sat Aug 16 15:11:43 EDT 1997

Dear all (and Pat especially),

Are we going to like the former Comsat Angels? It depends. When they make quality music, I think the answer is "yes". Would be difficult though, without Stephen. Almost every Comsat-song bears his mark.

Speaking for myself, I'm not going to like them just because they once were one of my favorite bands. And I'm not going to like Mood X just because it's a Stephen Fellows album.

And being a drummer myself, yes, I'm very interested in every band with such a quality drummer as Mic is.

Cheers, Boudewijn

Anna Mairs lamairs@eisa.net.au Sun Aug 17 00:53:38 EDT 1997

Oops ! Sorry about the multi entry guys, I know I was warned, but I thought it didn't work. Naughty me, can't one entry be deleted?

Boudewijn, honestly how hard could it be to set up a mail list? I think more fans would contribute, if their letters weren't actually visible on the Internet for all to see and would prefer to just send to a mail-list. Then we could talk privately amongst ourselves.

I agree with Pat, who would be interested in the band if Stephen Fellows doesn't front it. What would the band be called? I must admit my curiosity would get the better of me and I'd probably take a listen, but nothing beats that voice. Stephen is the Comsats. I have one of those books you speak of Pat, mine is booklet number 2, it goes with the Fiction album. Due to the way it's written it's a little illegible.

For those who have seen the band live I would like you to tell us your experience. I know one guy who has, so if he reads this, hopefully you will share that story with the rest of the fans, they would be so envious, well I was. I've never seen the band live. I would do anything to see them now.

Why doesn't someone just ask the band whether they have any live footage or any music videos, that we could borrow and record. There must be live footage and stuff somewhere. God! they weren't that obscure. I know that I have the 'Will You Stay Tonight' clip. Pat has mentioned that he has also seen a few clips, why can't someone get them all together, put them on a video tape, so we can buy it. It just needs a little push, let's get the show on the road guys.

"So, She Took A Drink From The Radio"

Anna

Tony Kinson kinski.yearzero@dial.pipex.com http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/kinski.yearzero/sleep Sun Aug 17 07:08:48 EDT 1997

Hi All

Re: some of the more recent postings:

Comsats Mailing List - If there is enough interest, I can set one up. I have set up a Hugh Cornwell mailing list as part of my latest project - The Torture Garden (http://www.hughcornwell.com) - check it out if you are interested in Hugh Cornwell / The Stranglers. Plug over - back to The Comsats! I will look into setting up a mailing list - but it may not be for a few weeks yet, as the company who supplies the mail server is upgrading their equipment. Watch this space - I''l announce it here (and on the Sleep No More site). There are about 100 people on my SNM site list - so there would not be a huge amount of mail on a CSA mailing list - but, as Anna states, people might "talk" more if it was through email.

We should not complain about The Comsat Fellowship format though - a big shout must go out to Trav for the time and effort he has put into giving us this format to discuss our common interests...

Re: CSA videos / re-issues - people should pester RPM, hope you have better luck getting a response / help than me! The Jive CD's are the more likely to get the re-issue treatment - along with Chasing Shadows (maybe with Dream Command tracks added). It has been stated before by RPM that there is not enough material for a video of promos - but there must be enough material from TV performances to warrant a release. I also think the live / rarities album - again if people badger RPM - would be a great release. There are countless unreleased songs - from all sections of the bands career - as well as hundreds of live recordings.

Dream Command - those who are lucky enough to own a copy - does anyone agree that Venus Hunter could have graced a "regular" later period CSA album?

Re: The Band Formerly Known As The Comsat Angels! Much the same as Stephen, they are "starting fresh" - and will not go out under the old name or with the old material. So they will have to be judged on what they come up with instead of past glories. I haven't heard any of their material but I have offered them space on the SNM site to let us know what they are up to.

As for S Fellows, I have heard some of his post-CSA work (I'm listening to Mood X as I type!). Mood X is unlike anything he has released before. If you are looking for songs and THAT VOICE you won't find it on this release. It is moods & textures and something you will either love or hate. I understand that the next release will be song-based (again, I have heard 3 songs but they are being drastically re-worked). He is trying to go off into new directions and I personally cannot wait to hear one of my favourite vocalists on fresh material. It may be some time till we hear the new "songs" though..

Tony Kinson

Anna Mairs lamairs@eisa.net.au Sun Aug 17 21:58:10 EDT 1997

Tony, I'm not in anyway, knocking the good work Travis has done towards The Comsat Fellowship. I think he deserves a medal for all his efforts for allowing us to even talk here like this. I bow to the man.

On the other hand, I can't wait for that mail-list to be set up and I'm now going off to pester RPM. Who wants to join me?

"It's Party Time At The Top Of The Hill"
"The Air Is Freezing And The Grass Is
Like Wire In Between The Trees"
"The Room Is Shaking And I Wish I
Had More Faith Than This"............

Anna

George A. Goode helix@usa.net Sat Aug 23 14:48:01 EDT 1997

In a previous post Anna said...

I also agree with George A. Goode about the unavailability of obtaining CD's by The Chameleons. I tried CDEurope and that order was never filled. It would have been nice of them though to explain why.

I ordered 'Script of the bridge' and 'What does anything mean, basically' on July 25 from CDNOW and received both on August 21. These items are listed as LOW STOCK (probably the balance of the Dead Dead Good label inventory) but they still do exist. I tried 3 different companies before I was successful.

In a previous message Ian said:

Fire on the Moon' is worth grabbing if for no other reason than to listen to 'Celestine'.

I think 'Mercury' is one incredible tune, well worth the price of admission.

In a previous message Pat said:

We all (and please note, I AM generalising here) tend to hook on to the lead singers of bands we are into, and so, Steve's solo work will, I guess, whip up alot of interest from us.

He's also the principal writer, and that will lead a band in a direction for certain. Steve's moodiness in his lyrics has always been a prime attraction for me, because they are so content rich, and mirror my feelings at times.

But, I wonder how much we will care about a new band that happens to have a guy called Mic Glaisher on drums. Just a thought. Anyone care to comment?

I for one am excited at the possibilities. I have been a TCSA fan for 10 years, and that included Kevin, Mik and Andy as well. I think Mik's drumming ability is beyond description, and was what made the band so unique. I do feel sad that the personal problems got in the way, as I felt the 2 new additions fit very well and Simon's guitar was an excellent counterpoise to Steve's playing - much as Dave and Reg worked so very well in the Chameleons. However, if CSA is truly history, I would prefer it that way. Then, I don't have to unconsciously try to fit Pete into an unfair comparison with Steve. I think it will be easier for ex-CSA to sound new than it will for Steve to sound new, since his vocal and guitar will carry his distinctive trademark.

In a previous post Boudewijn said:

Speaking for myself, I'm not going to like them just because they once were one of my favorite bands. And I'm not going to like Mood X just because it's a Stephen Fellows album.

Couldn't agree more on that one. Of course they'll get an automatic 'buy' and a fair chance to grace my regular playlist, but I'm not ruling out the possibility that 'The Glamour' is really the final chapter in the saga.

And now for my personal drivel/errata:

7 day weekend is listed by CD Universe as 'on Backorder'. If you order, they cancel your order immediately.

Still looking for the 2 Jive albums on CD with no luck.

Did anyone else get the same feeling I did when I read the Steve Fellows interview on his web page? I had the strong impression he felt 'ganged up on' and that the balance of power within the band had moved irrrevocably toward Mik. That's not what he said, but having thought about it for about 2 months, that's what I keep coming back to in my mind's eye.

A mailing list would be wonderful. I am on Tom Robinson's list and get up to 10 messages a day. The only (tiny) criticism I have of this page is that long periods occur where nothing happens (usually after I post :-( ) and I don't check in as often as I should. Having it in my email would most definitely force me to respond more often (which might be a disadvantage forced on everyone).

best regards to all,

George.

Ian Lloyd ILloyd8208@aol.com Fri Aug 29 13:36:41 EDT 1997

looks like the Fire on the Moon debate could run and run - does this mean that the concensus is that it's good enough to be considered to be a 'real' CSA release - isn't it anyway ?

A video compilation would be a real bonus - I would love to have live footage from the SNM era. I really hope that it won't be too long before Steve and Mic/Andy/Simon/Terry start playing live again - it's been too long (12 years in my case!)

Is there any unreleased tracks from the dutch radio sessions - I'm hooked on the version of 'What Else' on the Cutting Edge CD ?

Does anyone know of a source of the 'Shiva' single ?

Trav tripalot.com/travis Fri Aug 29 14:52:11 EDT 1997

Hi guys! I just got back from my summer travels...

Glad to see the list is working well!

I agree that a Comsats mailing list would probably generate more messages per day. That's good for the bored Comsats fans, but not so hot for the busier fans. One possibility is to make The Comsat Fellowship be the "moderated" web-based version of a mailing list. But then a concern is: who is to say what content should be included on The Comsat Fellowship page? Or would it be best if the two were independent?

Trav

George A. Goode helix@usa.net Fri Aug 29 15:26:53 EDT 1997

In a previous message, the boss said:

I agree that a Comsats mailing list would probably generate more messages per day. That's good for the bored Comsats fans, but not so hot for the busier fans.

Mailing lists are voluntary, after all. If a person is too busy, they need not subscribe, or can unsubscribe if need be.

The Tom Robinson list is about to split in two due to the traffic generated: a 'chat' list for everything, and a 'news' list for Tom to relay gig and release information etc. A similar split might work, since most 'news' seems to come from Tony at irregular intervals.

One possibility is to make The Comsat Fellowship be the "moderated"

That "word" could easily end up killing the whole idea - no personal slight intended. It's just not a good idea in the long run.

If there are only 100 fans involved anyhow, and considering it will likely be the same 10 contributors at once with another 20 semi-interested people as irregular contributors, I doubt if any list will get out of control for a while.

Of course these are just my opinions, and are subject to change without notice...:-)

regards,

George.

Tony Kinson kinski.yearzero@dial.pipex.com Sat Sep 6 09:22:09 EDT 1997

Hi all

As promised, I have set up the Comsat Angels / Stephen Fellows mailing list.

You can subscribe to the list from the intro page of my Sleep No More site.

The list is un-moderated - so use it as you want. Obviously, it is up to Trav what happens to the Comsat Fellowship (re: previous posts about moderated chat).

I will also use the Sleep No More list to replace my personal site-list - which is very time consuming - as I get lots of returned mail from people who have changed addresses etc - and it is much easier to send to a list that people subscribe to themselves.

So if you want to be kept truly up-to-date, and want to keep receiving the (occasional) news I get, please subscribe to the list.

Post away and above all, ENJOY!

Tony Kinson

"Sleep No More" - the web-site for The Comsat Angels

http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/kinski.yearzero/sleep

bob sacco bsacco@cybergold.com http://www.cybergold.com/ Tue Sep 9 01:59:00 EDT 1997

Does anyone know how to contact Steve Fellows on the internet? Does he have an email address?

Tony Kinson kinski.yearzero@dial.pipex.com Thu Sep 11 07:16:30 EDT 1997

Hi Bob

Steve is not an internet user - so cannot be contacted via email.

Tony

Trav tripalot.com/travis Fri Sep 12 23:07:08 EDT 1997

Anna -

This is a little belated, but a local store has at least one Chameleons CD in stock - I saw it today. It was either Script of the Bridge or WDAMB?, Script I think. For $24 or so.

What CDs of theirs are you looking for, anyway?

Tony -

I subscribed to your mailing list, but so far haven't received any mail for it. Is it active?

Bob and all -

I just had an idea. Why don't we all write a bunch of questions and/or comments for Steve Fellows (or any of the Comsats). We can email our letters to one person on here. That person will compile them into an attractive looking booklet, print it out, and either snail mail it to Steve for find someway to give it to him in person.

What do you think? I've never heard of something like that being done before. How do you think an artist would react to being given a book of fan's comments/questions? Would it have the same effect as a ton of individual fan mail? Or might the novelty of something like that appeal to him, assume it's indeed novel. [ No, I'm not saying it has to be a novel in length. Sigh. Bad pun. ]

Trav

Trav tripalot.com/travis Wed Sep 17 21:20:39 EDT 1997

(cross posted to the Comsats mailing list)

CSA Fellows:

Nice to see a Comsats mailing list - although I wonder what will happen to Travis' 'Comsat Fellowship', it's served us well in the past.

The Fellowship will continue to serve as a repository for time-insensitive information such as:

The Fellowship is also ideal for people who don't want to have to read about the Comsats when they are not in the mood, since you cannot choose when to get email but you *can* choose when to check a discussion page.

Honestly, I tend to delete 90% of all mailing list message if I am not "in the mood" when I get them, which means that when I get in the mood later, I don't get to read those messages. With the Fellowship, I am *always* in the mood for the Comsats when I read about them, because I must purposefully check the discussion page..

So basically, if you want your words written in stone, if you want more of a guarantee that people will get around to reading your post some time when they are actually interested, then post to the Fellowship. If you are looking for a quick answer to a question, use either the mailing list or the Fellowship, whichever format you prefer.

One thing I plan to do is mirror all "critical" messages that appear on the mailing list to the Fellowship. These include album release info, tour dates, reviews, etc. Ideally, all the stuff I bulletized above.

How does that sound to y'all?

For instance, Pat, do you want me to post your introduction to the Fellowship?

Trav

Patrick Lynch plynch@videotron.co.uk Thu Sep 18 14:55:35 EDT 1997

(cross posted to mailing list)

Hi everyone,

I wish someone would set up a Dalek I Love You web site, but then, I wish Crystal Palace would win the Premiership...

Anyway, a little about myself. My name is Pat Lynch, 33, married with two crazy sons. They're not into the Comsats yet, Oasis and The Spice Girls at the moment. But, be fair, one's four and the other's two so it's early days yet!!

I live in Croydon which is just outside London. I work for a cable television company in South London. My job is to monitor the output to the subscribers (yeah...I watch TV for a living!)

I first got into the Comsats in 1980 through listening to the John Peel (I'm not worthy etc) Show. He gave a lot of airplay to Total War, and when I got my first dole cheque I rushed out and bought it. In fact what I did was to go into my nearest Our Price store and ask (and I cringe now when I think of it!) the new single by 'The Concept Angels'! Well, that's what it sounded like on the radio!

The single was great, but I couldn't believe how good the b-sides were, especially 'Home Is The Range'. 'Independance Day' followed and when they released the first LP it seemed they could do no wrong.

The first time I saw them live was at The Marquee in Wardour Street and if I remember rightly they had some sort of semi-residency there where they played every Monday for a month. However the strangest gig in many ways was when they played the Dominion Theatre in London, around the time of 'Sleep No More'. A huge venue, I remember at the time being amazed at the choice. Certainly they were on the verge of breaking out of the alternative circuit, but it still seemed an ambitious move. Don't forget, in those days, 1981, it took a long time for indie/alternative bands to break through. While the Comsats were becoming more and more respected they didn't have the kind of fanbase that bands like Echo & The Bunnymen, The Teardrop Explodes, or U2 had. Sadly the venue seemed at best only half full and the band seemed a bit lost playing at this huge venue. Shame. They had a great stage set with slides and swirly-whirly (blinding you with science here!) patterns projected on pyramid like things (which may have moved across the stage, I can't quite recall).

I do feel though, that this was the defining moment in the history of the band. From this moment on, the venues got smaller, the critical acclaim started to decrease and after one more LP they left Polydor. Did, I wonder, their management try to push the band to quickly. Should they have been left to gradually build on their success. We'll never know, but the material on Jive seemed a lot more commercial. They seemed to have an eye on the marketplace much more than they had had in the past. As a result 'Land' seemed a little underwhelming. 'Seven Day Weekend' was however an inprovement. The production was still somewhat polished, but the songs were a big improvement on the last set.

The gigs continued. I remember a great show at the Boston Arms in Tufnell Park (promoting 'Chasing Shadows') where they seemed to play for hours. Track after track after track. All great, of course.

I'm glad they finished up with RPM. Free from the constraints and needs of a major label they recorded two LP's the equal, surely, of their greatest stuff. And it would be wrong, I think, if 'Fire On The Moon' had been their last LP.

And so to the future. 'Mood X' is a fascinating prospect and who knows what the rest of the chaps will come up with... Whatever, The Comsats were a great band who should have had more success and respect. Certainly, you can hear their direct or indirect influence in a lot of music today. We await the box set in ten years time.

It took the Velvets ages to goet acknowledged for what they did to rock 'n' roll...

Speak to you soon

Pat

Bill O'Reilly bill@zero-one.com.au Thu Sep 25 17:15:21 EDT 1997

Anna,

Email me at bill@zero-one.com.au The emails I've sent you have bounced back.

Bill

George A. Goode helix@usa.net Sun Oct 5 12:02:46 EDT 1997

Mailing list blues:

Although Tony claims I am subscribed I've not received a single message since I changed ISP's on September 19.

Is anyone else receiving messages, or is there a subtle hint I'm not getting yet...:)

regards,

George A. Goode

The Comsat Fellowship #02

1997-06-09 to 1997-10-05